3 Facts that Skopjans dont want you to know

1.  Skopjans hypocritically, showing their real racist face, tend occasionally to use the term “Turks” as a derogatory remark against Greeks. However they conveniently forget:


(1) Athens was captured from Ottoman Turks in 1458 and  the city was liberated in 1821.

(2) Skopje was captured from Ottoman turks in 1392 and the city was liberated in 1912.

(3) Thessaloniki was captured from Ottoman turks in 1430 and the city was liberated in 1912.

(4) Trapezounta was captured from Ottoman turks in 1461, and the Pontian refugees migrated to Greece in 1923.

Skopje was under Turkish yoke for 520 years.

Athens was under Turkish yoke for 363.

Thessaloniki was under Turkish yoke for 480 years.

Pontian refugees were under Turkish yoke for 462 years before they came to Greece.


Skopje was  under Turkey for:

157 years MORE than Athens.
40 years MORE than Thessaloniki.
58 years MORE than the Pontian refugees.

2.  Skopjans hypocritically, showing their real racist face, tend occasionally to use the term “Prosfygi” or “Christian Turks” as a derogatory remark against Pontian Greeks who settled in Greece.  However they conveniently forget:


In the aftermath of Ottoman conquests, the city of Skopje and generally lands of modern FYROM, were subjected to a systematic massive colonization of Ottomans and other Turkic tribes from which a great chunk of today’s FYROM population is originating from, since many of them were christianised (the rest originates from Bulgarian and Slavic settlers)

3. Skopjans hypocritically, tend occasionally to use the claim that “Greek state renamed in 1900s all Slavic placenames in Macedonia, Greece”.  However they conveniently forget:


The renaming or, more precisely, the Hellenization, of the majority of toponyms is indicative of the process of homogenization attempted by the Greek state in the context of the modernization of the region and more generally the country. In fact Greek state succeed to restore original ancient Greek placenames found in classical geographical texts. On the other hand its highly hypocritical, Slavs, the same people who initially renamed ALL the original ancient Macedonian/Paeonian/Dardanian placenames to cry for the same thing they…initially did themselves.

For example,

1. Skopje

Even skopje its a changed name since it was originally founded by Dardanians as Skupi.

2. Debar

Another changed name. The first recorded document mentioning Debar is the map of Ptolemy, dating around the middle of the 2nd century, in which it is called Deborus.

3. Delcevo

Wikipedia says during Ottoman times it was called “Sultania” or “Sultaniye” and later Carevo Selo. The town was renamed its present name Delčevo in 1950.

4. Kavadarci

The name Kavadarci is derived from the Greek word, “Kavadion” which means “cape made from a valuable material”. The citizens of Kavadarci being manufacturers of this material, the first recorded use of this name was during the first half of the 19th Century.

5. Kicevo

The original ancient Illyriann name was Uskana . The town belonged to the Illyrian Penestae who inhabited the valley of the Treska/Velcka river and was mentioned for first time in the reign of Perseas, king of Macedon during the Third Macedonian War (171-169 BC). Another ancient name changed by Slavs.

6. Negotino

Negotino was known under the name of Antigoneia. It was founded by the Macedonian king Antigonus II Gonatas, in the period between 278–242 BC.

7. Gostivar

From wikipedia: “Possibly the first mention of the town was made by the Roman historian Livy. He records how during the Third Macedonian War the King of Macedon Perseus at the head of 10000 men, after taking Uskana (Kicevo), attacked Drau-Dak, today Gostivar.

8. Ochrid

Wiki: Historical names include Dassarites , land of the Dexaroi – was, in the view of Hammond an Epirot group a constituent sub-tribe of the Chaones. It was, however. the area of Epirus most subject to Illyrian pressure and was probably heavily affected by the latter.  and the Greek names Lychnidos (Λύχνιδος), Ochrida (Οχρίδα) and Achrida (Αχρίδα), the latter two of which are still in modern usage.

9. Valandovo

Wiki: Evidence of life can be found beginning in the 10th-7th centuries B.C. There is a settlement known as Mal Konstantinopol (Small Constantinople) dating from Roman times, and the life in the Middle Ages is marked by Marco’s Tower. In the vicinity of the town there are also two very important archeological sites – The Isar Marvinci and the knowledge experts have on the existence of the ancient city Idomene.

10. Prilep

The site of the ancient Keramiai – a Pelagonian (and therefore Greek-speaking) town. The plain in which it dominates was known as the Keramesian Plain (Prilepsko Pole in Slavic). It was the northern part of the Pelagonian plain – the southern part, dominated by Heracleia Lynkestis/Bitola is known in Slavic as Bitolsko Pole.

11. Demi Hisar

It was known as SideroKastron when Greeks lived there. Later in Ottomantimes, the name was changed in to ”Demir Hisar” which in their language means ‘’ Iron Mountain’’. Another original greek toponymy renamed.

12. Demir-Kapija

Demir-Kapija is a place already mentioned in Classical times under the name of Stenae (Greek for gorge). In the Middle Ages it was known as a Slav settlement, under the name of Prosek, while today’s name originates from the Turkish reign, meaning “The Iron Gate”.

13. Štip

Originally an ancient Macedonian city called astibo which was renamed later to Štip.

14. Stroumica

Wiki: The town is first mentioned in II century B.C. with the name Astrayon. Later it is known by the name Tiveriopol. It got it’s present name from the slovan settlers.

15. Cepigovo

The ancient Styberra was renamed by Slavs as Cepigovo.

16. Bučin

The ancient Alkomena. Alkomena used to be one of the urban centres of Derriopos.

17. Gevgelija
The ancient Gortynia renamed into Gevgelija.

18.  Titov Veles

It was known in antiquity as Bylazora.

19. Isar-Marvinci

There stood during antiquity according to archaeologists the ancient Idomenai.

20 Vardar

The ancient Bardarios was renamed in Slavic as Vardar.

21. Crna

The ancient Erigon renamed into the Slavic Crna.


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