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		<title>By: thlemaxos</title>
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		<dc:creator>thlemaxos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok ok ok first vardarians (buglarians in denial ) claims that they are ancient macedonians bulgarians that they are ancient thracians turks says that they are ancient ionians etc brainless shit now albanians claims that they are dirct descend of illirians ok i dont have problem with that but claiming now that alexander the great was an illirian ? ok take a look 
Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay — and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for GREECE , and our hearts will be in it. As for our  FOREIGN  TROOPS  — Thracians, Paeonians, ILLYRIANS , Agrianes — they are  &lt; the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they — Darius! 
Addressing his troops prior to the Battle of Issus, as quoted in Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian Book II, 7 nuf said what now they will claim that was an ancient greko-roman propaganda which was about 2000 + now they claim that they had alexander on coin at 1926  ok but we were singing about him before 1926 μακεδονια ξακουστή nuff said    hmm ok then now i can claim that barack obama  is white from Sweden</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok ok ok first vardarians (buglarians in denial ) claims that they are ancient macedonians bulgarians that they are ancient thracians turks says that they are ancient ionians etc brainless shit now albanians claims that they are dirct descend of illirians ok i dont have problem with that but claiming now that alexander the great was an illirian ? ok take a look<br />
Our enemies are Medes and Persians, men who for centuries have lived soft and luxurious lives; we of Macedon for generations past have been trained in the hard school of danger and war. Above all, we are free men, and they are slaves. There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay — and not much of at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for GREECE , and our hearts will be in it. As for our  FOREIGN  TROOPS  — Thracians, Paeonians, ILLYRIANS , Agrianes — they are  &lt; the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they — Darius!<br />
Addressing his troops prior to the Battle of Issus, as quoted in Anabasis Alexandri by Arrian Book II, 7 nuf said what now they will claim that was an ancient greko-roman propaganda which was about 2000 + now they claim that they had alexander on coin at 1926  ok but we were singing about him before 1926 μακεδονια ξακουστή nuff said    hmm ok then now i can claim that barack obama  is white from Sweden</p>
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		<title>By: ΑΡΧΑΙΟΣ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΟΣ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ΑΡΧΑΙΟΣ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΟΣ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 04:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Εποικοδομητική συζήτηση;Διάλογος,κατά το δυνατόν,επιστημονικός;Με αυτούς τους αμαθείς και ημιμαθείς,εδώ,εννοείς και υπονοείς;Με τα φασιστάκια,τα αλβανάκια,θα κάνεις διάλογο,αδελφέ μου;


UNCOVER AND PULVERIZE FROM AUSTRALIA TO THE WHOLE OF EUROPE,FROM CANADA AND BRAZIL TO INDIA AND CHINA THE S(H)QIP(E)TARO-ALBANIAN SLIMY PROPAGANDA!B U R N THEIR ENTIRE GARBAGE!FREEDOM TO THE NORTHERN EPIRUS!F U C K S(H)QIP(E)RIA&#039;S/S(H)QI(Y)PNIA&#039;S FAKE,FALSE EAGLE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Εποικοδομητική συζήτηση;Διάλογος,κατά το δυνατόν,επιστημονικός;Με αυτούς τους αμαθείς και ημιμαθείς,εδώ,εννοείς και υπονοείς;Με τα φασιστάκια,τα αλβανάκια,θα κάνεις διάλογο,αδελφέ μου;</p>
<p>UNCOVER AND PULVERIZE FROM AUSTRALIA TO THE WHOLE OF EUROPE,FROM CANADA AND BRAZIL TO INDIA AND CHINA THE S(H)QIP(E)TARO-ALBANIAN SLIMY PROPAGANDA!B U R N THEIR ENTIRE GARBAGE!FREEDOM TO THE NORTHERN EPIRUS!F U C K S(H)QIP(E)RIA&#8217;S/S(H)QI(Y)PNIA&#8217;S FAKE,FALSE EAGLE!</p>
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		<title>By: Damianos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damianos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asfalos exeis dikeo!  
 
Na doume apo edo kai empros ti mborei na ginei na diorthothi i katastasi. 
 
Fovame oti to kalitero pou mboroume na elpizoume einai sintheto onoma, kai ayto me diskolia! 
 
Distixos! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asfalos exeis dikeo!  </p>
<p>Na doume apo edo kai empros ti mborei na ginei na diorthothi i katastasi. </p>
<p>Fovame oti to kalitero pou mboroume na elpizoume einai sintheto onoma, kai ayto me diskolia! </p>
<p>Distixos! </p>
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		<title>By: The_Director</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Director</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note to the usual suspects. 
 
 Next time someone wants to post a comment here, ALWAYS provide Valid Source(s) to back up your claim(s).  
 
&quot;Valid Source(s)&quot; is/are considered, ie when discussing about ancient history, ONLY citations from ancient sources.  
 
Idiotic Arguments like &#039;Claim A is true, because i say so&#039; and/or  &quot;It is known to be like that, therefore its true,&quot; are considered  by the Blog mods as spam/complete waste of time, therefore they will be deleted at once. 
 
If you are not aware of the basic criteria of a constructive discussion or how to construct a valid argument, this is not the place to learn and simply dont bother to post at all.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note to the usual suspects. </p>
<p> Next time someone wants to post a comment here, ALWAYS provide Valid Source(s) to back up your claim(s).  </p>
<p>&quot;Valid Source(s)&quot; is/are considered, ie when discussing about ancient history, ONLY citations from ancient sources.  </p>
<p>Idiotic Arguments like &#039;Claim A is true, because i say so&#039; and/or  &quot;It is known to be like that, therefore its true,&quot; are considered  by the Blog mods as spam/complete waste of time, therefore they will be deleted at once. </p>
<p>If you are not aware of the basic criteria of a constructive discussion or how to construct a valid argument, this is not the place to learn and simply dont bother to post at all.  </p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soto, you are full... of ....! You guys are trying so... hard to hide the history of Albanians, you are afraid the world might find out how much history you stole from Albanians? Look at the old scrolls, are you hiding them well, don&#039;t let anyone come across them or your big lies will come out! you guys were happy and made sure that no one knows about Albanians or finds out who  Albaninas are, now Albanians are free and talking about their history, if you could you would lock all the Albanians in the dungeon, and never let them see the sun light, so the world would never find out about Albanians, just how much history did you steal from Albanians, Let the world know NOW! GOD is on our side, he said enough is enough; you have yet to see who Albanians are, 
Thank you, 
Rosie </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soto, you are full&#8230; of &#8230;.! You guys are trying so&#8230; hard to hide the history of Albanians, you are afraid the world might find out how much history you stole from Albanians? Look at the old scrolls, are you hiding them well, don&#039;t let anyone come across them or your big lies will come out! you guys were happy and made sure that no one knows about Albanians or finds out who  Albaninas are, now Albanians are free and talking about their history, if you could you would lock all the Albanians in the dungeon, and never let them see the sun light, so the world would never find out about Albanians, just how much history did you steal from Albanians, Let the world know NOW! GOD is on our side, he said enough is enough; you have yet to see who Albanians are,<br />
Thank you,<br />
Rosie </p>
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		<title>By: OIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>OIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: D-Mak</title>
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		<dc:creator>D-Mak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its pointless, indeed, to waste our time replying to ignorant remarks in this very topic from its right beginning. So please next time any Albanian National wishes to comment here, at least provide something worthy to comment on or simply dont bother to waste our time.

Even the inscribed tripod discovered inside the Tomb II highlights the validity of the above claim. The tripod was won during the games of Hera in Argos, Peloponnese by Alexander Philhellene. Therefore two safe conclusions can be made:

(a) Alexander also participated in other Pan-Hellenic games except Olympics. Both occasions show undoubtedly that he identified himself as a Greek and the same happened with Southern Greeks towards him.

(b) It is also indicative the moment Alexander I the Philhellene during Olympics, announced his Temenid origin to all bystanders. Among Bystanders were certainly Argives and other Peloponessians. On the sound of the names “Temenos” and “Hercules” used by Alexander to trace his descent, they would strongly protest if it was not true. Noone did but on the contrary with this archaeological discovery we have evidence of Alexander taking part in the Argive Heraea together with other Argives. In essense those games were one of these events that reminded and renewed the bond between those Greeks of Argive Stock. Hence those Argives and Peloponessians were aware of a number of Temenids having indeed migrated to Macedonia, their descedants were participating in Argive  and the Argive origin of Macedonian kings is beyond any doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its pointless, indeed, to waste our time replying to ignorant remarks in this very topic from its right beginning. So please next time any Albanian National wishes to comment here, at least provide something worthy to comment on or simply dont bother to waste our time.</p>
<p>Even the inscribed tripod discovered inside the Tomb II highlights the validity of the above claim. The tripod was won during the games of Hera in Argos, Peloponnese by Alexander Philhellene. Therefore two safe conclusions can be made:</p>
<p>(a) Alexander also participated in other Pan-Hellenic games except Olympics. Both occasions show undoubtedly that he identified himself as a Greek and the same happened with Southern Greeks towards him.</p>
<p>(b) It is also indicative the moment Alexander I the Philhellene during Olympics, announced his Temenid origin to all bystanders. Among Bystanders were certainly Argives and other Peloponessians. On the sound of the names “Temenos” and “Hercules” used by Alexander to trace his descent, they would strongly protest if it was not true. Noone did but on the contrary with this archaeological discovery we have evidence of Alexander taking part in the Argive Heraea together with other Argives. In essense those games were one of these events that reminded and renewed the bond between those Greeks of Argive Stock. Hence those Argives and Peloponessians were aware of a number of Temenids having indeed migrated to Macedonia, their descedants were participating in Argive  and the Argive origin of Macedonian kings is beyond any doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: EMathius</title>
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		<dc:creator>EMathius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but the greek author of this allgedly response make so mistakes, so pointless. He trying to nihilate what had wrote W.Tarn and says that &#039;archaeological findings in Vergina has change perspective of view&quot;. 

Seriously, for what changing of perspective are you talking? Please, I am so curios to know how is changing perspective about Macedonians or Alexander by archaeological findings in Vergina tombs? 
Dit it found any inscription that says decisivly that &#039;Macedonians are Greek&#039; or &#039;Alexander is Greek&#039;? So, I am wainting with impatience your answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but the greek author of this allgedly response make so mistakes, so pointless. He trying to nihilate what had wrote W.Tarn and says that &#8216;archaeological findings in Vergina has change perspective of view&#8221;. </p>
<p>Seriously, for what changing of perspective are you talking? Please, I am so curios to know how is changing perspective about Macedonians or Alexander by archaeological findings in Vergina tombs?<br />
Dit it found any inscription that says decisivly that &#8216;Macedonians are Greek&#8217; or &#8216;Alexander is Greek&#8217;? So, I am wainting with impatience your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitrios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitrios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Amir the “Great Albanian”, aka Luboteni-Clown:

Check this out:
http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/ancient-macedonian-history/6082-origin-ancient-macedonians-other-greeks-16.html

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Amir the “Great Albanian”, aka Luboteni-Clown:</p>
<p>Check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/ancient-macedonian-history/6082-origin-ancient-macedonians-other-greeks-16.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/ancient-macedonian-history/6082-origin-ancient-macedonians-other-greeks-16.html</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dimitrios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitrios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Amir the &quot;Great Albanian&quot;,

and his  &quot;... fuck fantazy.&quot;
:) ...


&quot;Remember what saying ... There is no debate without debaters.&quot; : 

http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/epirus-forum/9693-origin-albanians-5.html

:) ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Amir the &#8220;Great Albanian&#8221;,</p>
<p>and his  &#8220;&#8230; fuck fantazy.&#8221;<br />
 <img src='http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Remember what saying &#8230; There is no debate without debaters.&#8221; : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/epirus-forum/9693-origin-albanians-5.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.macedoniaontheweb.com/forum/epirus-forum/9693-origin-albanians-5.html</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;</p>
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