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FACTS:
F.Y.R.O.M.-Slavs claim that the use of the term “MAKEDONIA” in Greece was forbidden until 1988 and that no province with the name “MAKEDONIA” (Macedonia) existed in Northern-Greece before 1988.

There are many examples for state institutions or privat corporations which use the term “MAKEDONIA” in Greece since the end of 19th century and still use it:

Newspaper “Makedonia” - paper of 4th April of 1878

Makedonia newspaper

Faros Of Macedonia - paper of 29th November 1887.

Ermis of Thessaloniki - paper of 24th Octomber of 1875.

 

Official document from the Kingdom of Greece in 1922, mentioning the name of the commanding officer of…Macedonia.

The Greek government had given the title  ”Governor General of Macedonia” to the Greek minister of the Macedonia region in Greece.

Examples:

In early 1923 the Governor-General of Macedonia, Achilleas Lambros, conducted an ethnological survey of this region.(30) According to Lambros, the statistical data came (a) from the official Greek census of 1920, (b) from another census conducted at about the same time on behalf of the Foreign Ministry and (c) from information derived from various local officials.

This figure is also supported by an 1912 unofficial and unpublished census found in the papers of the first Greek Governor-General of Macedonia, Stefanos Dragoumis.(25)
(25.) Archeio Stefanou Dragoumi [Stefanos Dragoumis Papers], F.116.4., Governor-General of Thessaloniki to the Prime Minister, Thessaloniki, 4 November 1913, ref. 17210

general governor of Macedonia

1923: “In the course of conversation, Mr. Lambros [Governor General of Macedonia], actually said that the present was a good opportunity to get rid of the Bulgars [sic] who remained in this area and who had always been a source of trouble for Greece.

We can easily find references in international press.

Time Magazine - Aug. 04, 1924 

Quote:
The Greek Government crisis was weathered.Out walked Premier Papanastasiou (TIME, July 28) and in trotted Premier Sofoulis, ex-Governor of Macedonia, followed by five staunch supporters:

Premier and Marine: S. Sofoulis.

Finance: M. Tsouderos, ex-Foreign Minister under Venizelos.

Foreign Affairs: Georges Roussos, ex-Foreign Minister and one-time Minister to the U. S.

War: General Katehakis.

Interior: General Peter Mavromiethaelis.

Agriculture: M. Mylonas, also in the Venizelos Cabinet.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar…718771,00.html
Time Magazine, ‘New Cabinet’ Monday, Aug. 04, 1924

 Time Magazine, ‘Toward Warm Water?’, Monday, Jul. 23, 1945

Quote:
What was going on? The Greek Governor General of Macedonia said that no refugees were streaming into Yugoslavia,
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar…803589,00.html
Time Magazine, ‘Toward Warm Water?’, Monday, Jul. 23, 1945

The Greek Company of Scientific Researches were publishing books in Greece while sending similar reports to the Greek government under the title “Economy of Macedonia” in 1928.

The Greek “Club of scholars from Macedonia” were sending reports to the Greek government from education in Macedonia, having in the cover pictures of Alexander the Great in 1932.

The undergraduates in the University of Thessalonike were listening to their Rector adressing them for being lucky to be in “the heart of Macedonia” just in

1928.

The building of the Society of Macedonian Studies founded in 1934. You do not need to know Greek to read the word in the middle: Makedonikwn=Macedonian

 

    Newspaper “MAKEDONIA” March 1940

Makedonika Magazine -1940

Makedonika magazine 1940

Pan-Macedonian Association - 1947
http://www.panmacedonian.info/45_50.htm

National Geographic Map of 1958

National Geographic 1958 map

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MACEDONIA und THESSALONIKI Newspaper logo

Macedonia (Greek:Μακεδονία) is a Greek daily newspaper first published in 1911 by Vellidis.

The Society for Macedonian Studies

In the spring of 1939, a number of distinguished citizens of Thessaloniki founded the Society for Macedonian Studies as a legal entity of private law.
[…]
The Society for Macedonian Studies founded the Institute for Balkan Studies, initially as one of its own departments. The latter is now an independent body in its own right, with the Society for Macedonian Studies represented by three of the seven members of the Administrative Board. Another foundation is the Historical Archive of Macedonia, and the Society was also co-founder of the Museum of the Macedonian Struggle.

NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Macedonia (newspaper)

INTERNATIONAL FAIR TRADE OF THESSALONIKE

It was founded in 1926 and since then the term Macedonia is always used officialy in the greatest  International event of Thessalonike. For further infos see International Fair Trade Topic

International Fair of Thessalonike


Efimeris Kyverniseos” [Official Newspaper of the Greek Government] 15th Feb. of 1963.

Greek Kingdom honours Makedonomachoi between 1902-1908

Map of Greece from lib.utexas.edu- 1973

University o Texas

The Society for Macedonian Studies - 1975

Art Gallery of the Society for Macedonian Studies

Founded in 1975, this was the first organised visual art institution in the city, its purpose being to promote and disseminate modern Greek art, mainly that of northern Greece. […] The collection comprises more than 400 works, mainly paintings, sculptures, and engravings, mostly by artists from Thessaloniki and Macedonia in general, though there are also works by major artists from the rest of Greece and other countries too.

Art Gallery of the Society for Macedonian Studies by Greece Museums Guide - #1 Travel Guide to Greek Culture

The term Macedonia was also used in Greek school books.

Geography School book of 1977

greek geography school book mentioning Macedonia

History of Macedonia

Thessaloniki Museum of the Macedonian Struggle

The Society which is responsible for the Museum of the Macedonian Struggle is that of the “Frieds of the Museum of the Macedonian Struggle”, a private association founded in Thessaloniki in 1979.
Greece uses the term“MAKEDONIA” even before Macedonia was liberated.  FYROM’s propagandistic claim that the greek Term “MAKEDONIA” was forbidden in Greece is totally clumsy and another lie used by FYROM’s propagandists.

Many thanks to the members of MacedoniaOnTheWeb for gathering all that info.

For more check also Contemporary Use of the name Macedonia - The most ill-conceived Skopjan lie

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One of the funniest parts of Skopjan internet propaganda is the selective isolation of a few lines from one of the most famous magazines word-wide, National Geographic in early 20th century.

 Lets examine it carefully.

National Geographic in 1912 had an extensive mention to Macedonia and its different races.

The first pages of the article about Macedonia had:

*pictures taken from http://kroraina.com/knigi/en/ng_1912/NG_macedonia.html

In these two pages, we could read among others, the following:

Had the population of Macedonia been homogeneous, the Macedonian problem would have been settled long ago, but the mixture of races has ever been a marked characteristic of the Balkan Peninsula, and of no part of it more so than of Macedonia.
It is necessary to begin by explaining what is meant by the term Macedonia. The country forms neither a racial, a linguistic, nor a political unit. Geographically it is a unit, being bounded by the Shar Dagh on the North, the Albanian mountains on the west, the river Bistritza and the Aegean Sea on the south, and the Rhodope mountains on the east[..]

In the next page we read:

The division of races in Macedonia is not based wholly on difference of origin or of anthropological type. We may find characteristically Greek types, Bulgarian types, or Turkish types, but among those who call themselves Greeks are many whose type and whose origin is not Greek; and so it is with the others. In certain districts we find members of three distinct races speaking their respective language but all very similar in type.

* From “The Balkan Question,” edited by Luigi Villari

However Skopjan propagandists seems not to be aware of the above and propagandising the following from National Geographic of 1917

So in the 1917 National Geographic we have a new, different account from the version of 1912. Naturally a question comes to mind. How is it possible two different accounts on the same subject in just 5 years?

The answer is simple and plain.  In 1917, the year the second article was published Bulgaria and  US were already at war. We all know during war every mean possible is used for propaganda, including of course magazines. In addition to that Macedonia was the front line. On the other side of it was the Bulgarian army fighting the very same people who took the interview. So what does anyone would expect a peasant to say? “Yes, I am a proud Bulgarian, no matter that my countrymen are killing your compatriots by the thousand just over the hill!” As a matter of fact there is no indication that the woman was a Slav at all.

The funniest part is that skopjan propagandists stick to this only sentence in the second article and pretend that the much more scientific earlier article does not exist… If their best argument for the existence of Macedonians is one line by an anonimous peasant then they must surely try harder!!

Thanks to Robert for pointing out the above.

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