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Thousands of Veles citizens received taxes receipts written in FYROMian, but with Greek letters. The receipts were printed and sealed in envelopes automatically. The state is investigating the case and some commentators are suspicious of…Greek agents (!).

How many of these ordered, fabricated events the brainwashed FYROMian public will see remains a question……

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Ένα παλιό όμως επίκαιρο όσο ποτέ ντοκιμαντέρ για την αρχή του Μακεδονικού αγώνα. Οι αφηγήσεις και τα ιστορικά στοιχεία είναι τόσο λεπτομερή που κάνουν αυτό το έργο μοναδικό στο είδος του. Είναι ένα πειστήριο ότι ο αγώνας για την Μακεδονία εναντία σε Βούλγαρους και Τούρκους ήταν πραγματικά αγώνας για την απελευθέρωση της πατρίδος μας και αποδεικνύει περίτρανα ότι ποτέ δεν υπήρξε ξεχωριστό “Μακεδονικό έθνος” . Παράλληλα, βλέπουμε και φωτογραφίες , στις οποίες αναγράφονται τα ονόματα των στρατιωτών. Παρακολουθούμε πλάνα του γνωστού Μακεδονομάχου ΠΑΥΛΟΥ ΜΕΛΑ, ο οποίος διαδραμάτισε σοβαρό και καθοριστικό ρόλο σε όλη τη διάρκεια του Αγώνα. Η προσφορά τον Ελλήνων Μακεδόνων αλλά και όλων το Ελλήνων παρουσιάζεται χωρίς να χαϊδεύει τα αυτιά ψευδό κουλτουριάρηδων ιστορικών και πολιτικών που θυσιάζουν τις μνήμες και την Ιστορία μας για να μην στενοχωρήσουν τους δήθεν “φίλους” και “σύμμαχους” μας.

 

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Kiro Gligorov
In his column in daily “Dnevnik” professor Frckoski, a former Minister of Interior, revealed informations concerning the attempted assassination on the first Fyromian president Kiro Gligorov on 3 October 1995. The text woke up ghosts from the past and stirred political tension in FYROM In his regular Tuesday column in daily “Dnevnik” professor Ljubomir Frckoski, a former Minister of Interior and provoking opinion maker revealed information that left nobody in the country indifferent.

In the short text titled “Banality of Evil” professor Frckoski said he had been recently contacted by a person who shared with him new information concerning the attempted assassination on the first FYROMian president Kiro Gligorov on 3 October 1995.

The new “witness”, who is at present employed with a private company, worked for the so-called 7th directorate of the FYROMian secret services (DBK) at the time of the assassination, and he was directly involved in the events surrounding one of the most traumatic events in recent FYROMian history. He told Frckoski, who at the time served as Interior Minister, that he suspected people from inside DBK to have been involved in the attempt on the president’s life.

The column echoed like a bomb. Much like that bomb from 13 years ago.

President Gligorov was nearly killed on his way to work when a car-bomb went off as his vehicle passed by in the very centre of Skopje in autumn of 1995. Gligorov lost an eye and his survival was close to miraculous. His driver and bodyguard were both killed.

A photo taken a day before the assassination, allegedly by a German tourist, showed the white Ami 8, which contained the explosive, parked in front of hotel Bristol in the very centre of town. In the investigation which followed, DBK agents event went to Germany to look for the German citizen. He was never found. Now Frckoski’s witness, as reported by the professor, says he was the “tourist”.

“I am the one who took the photo showing the Ami 8 in front of the hotel the day before the assassination”, Frckoski quotes the testimony of the former agent, “ A DBK official ordered me to take it; we were taking dozens of photos each day. He did not tell me why. I gave him the photos and the negatives and forgot about it. But when the photo appeared in the press with the explanation it has been made by a German tourist, and they went to look for him in Germany, I was petrified. How will they find him in Germany when he is here? I wrote a note on this to the supervisors, but it later disappeared. It is not in the file on the assassination.”

Frckoski also writes the witness told him that the Ami 8 had been procured by a DBK official.

“Professor, those who gave me the instructions, I know them by name. I recognized the person who bought the Ami 8, from the photo-robot [of an alleged suspect, made by the police], he is a DBK official and a colleague of mine, who told himself off by saying he bought an Ami 8 for his cousin from Aleksinac [Serbia]. He said this in front of me. This is a special DBK action. It is known who orders it and without whose knowledge it can be ordered.”

Frckoski concludes is his column that “this explains why foreign secret services did not have information on the assassination”. That is to say, because it was “cooked” at home.

The accusation caused shock with the public and a furious response by the Ministry of Interior. Spokesman Ivo Kotevski said if Frckoski did not stop using such serious issues for his personal amusement, he would be called in for questioning.

With more calm, Public Prosecutor Ljupco Shvrgovski, stated the Prosecution would talk to Frckoski to assess the relevance of the new information. “At this point we don’t know what we will get. But if we get new relevant information we will certainly act on it”, said Shvrgovski.

The very next day Frckoski reported in the Prosecution where, according to the media, he shared the information he had and the name of the new witness. “This is all I can do”, he said briefly to the press, “to share what I know”.

By the next day, according to the media, the Prosecution also had a written statement by the witness, and planned to have him in for an interview next week.

The Minister of Interior, Gordana Jankulovska had a meeting with Prosecutor Shvrgovski to coordinate action. No one wanted to share more details.

“This is an open case for us. Whenever we have new information, regardless of where it comes from, we verify it automatically”, Jankulovska said.

In the 13 years since the assassination the investigation never really got anywhere. There were different leads which steered it in various directions, and different people were considered potential suspects in the past, but nothing tangible ever came from it.

Quite a few people who had been involved in the case in one way or another, as officials, possible witnesses, or suspects, died over the years. The list, according to the media, includes among other former Public Prosecutor Marko Bundalevski, former DBK director Dobri Velickovski, investigative judge Zdravko Vasilev. According to reporters who followed the case more closely, some of the people involved in the assassination died under unclear circumstances. A police stenographer, Tanja Pavloska, was found with a bullet in her head near the Ministry; the gun was never found. The three policemen who drove behind the president’s car on the day of the assassination are all dead too; one died in a car crash, the other was run over by a train; the third died of a heart attack which was reportedly a result of the post-traumatic stress.

Experts agree Frckoski is not an accidental choice of confessor for the witness. As a minister, he was in charge and directly responsible at the time of the assassination. Following the assassination Frckoski handed in his resignation but Prime Minister Branko Crvenkovski did not accept it.

Many say the whole thing is a political manipulation.

Former public prosecutor Stevan Pavleski says witnesses such as this are always problematic. “They always have some motive when they report something like this”. But in his view, if what the witness is saying proves to be true, then the old theses that the assassination was prepared abroad will finally become invalid.

Former interior minister Pavle Trajanov accused Frckoski of “making constructions with previously known facts”.

“He has got things mixed up. He was the minister back then and he made mistakes which made the assassination stay unresolved…now he is constructing things based on known facts. He should explain why he ordered to have the President’s mercedes lifted up and the crime scene cleansed half an hour after the explosion.”

Trajanov further accuses Frckoski of not having investigated the close ties between structures in Serbian and FYROMian military intelligence at the time. “He should also explain why he never investigated the theft of explosives and detonators of the same type used in the assassination, from Macedonian Army storage” continues Trajanov.

In Trajanov’s view a big chance to resolve the assassination was missed with the fact that FYROMian authorities did not ask cooperation with Serbian one’s during the operation “Sablja” following the assassination of Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic. That was in his view the most relevant direction for the investigation.

Former President Kiro Gligorov, who turned 90 last year, did not want to comment the new revelations.

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The following pic is taken from a FYROM’s site. The article was written about 2 years ago and it shows explicitly the Irredentist dreams of Skopjans against Greek sovereignty and the anti-Greek feelings promoted in every possible way in FYROM. Notice the flag of FYROM on the top of White Tower in Thessalonike.

 

A small but quite revealing part of the Text:

“Remembering ‘Solun’

Yesterday it was exactly 94 years ago that Macedonia has lost the city of ‘Solun’ to the Greeks officially. It was on the day when the Greeks conquered Macedonia’s biggest city and expelled the Macedonians living there.”

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Australian Macedonian Advisory Council

October 29, 2008

 

Dear Editors,I feel obliged to write to you in order to express my deepest concern for the deliberate manipulation of well-evidenced historical events which is clearly reflected in the article “Most modern Greeks today believe the Ancient Macedonians were Greek” written by Mr. Risto Stefov. The specific article is full of unfounded claims, an enmity addressed against Greek people and sophisticated misrepresentations of the ancient Greek history with its main aim to deceive the unsuspected reader by attempting to present false claims, disguised to sound truthful.
Before proceeding through a point by point refutation of the baseless claims presented in article in question, I would like to point out that the title of the article is misleading. Certainly it´s not “Most modern Greeks” who accept the fact that ancient Macedonians were Greek but instead it´s the vast majority of the world today, including the core of the contemporary modern historians who accept it as a fact.
To rephrase the author´s initial question…Why is it so important in general for the Slavic element of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) which Mr. Stefov belongs, to believe that the ancient Macedonians were not Greek?

The answer is simple and plain. Because somehow they live under a misguided notion. Particularly, they believe that by disassociating Greeks from ancient Macedonians, this will mean in their illusionary point of view, they, the descendants of the Slavic and Bulgar tribes that entered the Balkan peninsula in the 6th and 7th centuries, are the historical heirs and descendants of the ancient Macedonians who lived a thousand or more years earlier and who were Greeks by their own testimonies. One can hardly go further in Orwellian double-speak. This absurd notion supported increasingly among the Slavs of FYROM, makes as much sense as asserting that if someone manages to prove a car´s color is not white, this would surely mean it is black!

Furthermore Mr. Stefov embarks on an clumsy effort to spread mendacious disinformation as regards to the events of the early 20th century. Incorrectly he states “Didn´t Greece in 1912, 1913 invade and occupy a fully populated Macedonia?” while the truth is that nobody has invaded Macedonia in 1913 but instead during the first Balkan war, the Balkan coalition between Bulgaria, Serbia and Greece invaded Ottoman Empire, for the liberation of the Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbs who lived there. Sadly for the author´s empty claims there was not back then, any ethnicity called ´Macedonian´. The term was used merely as a geographical indicator.

To quote some accounts of contemporary self-witnesses that shatters Mr. Stefov´s unfounded claims and deliberate misinformation:

John Foster Fraser in his “Pictures from the Balkans” verifies: “But who are the Macedonians [5]? You will find Bulgarians and Turks who call themselves Macedonians, you find Greek Macedonians, there are Serbian Macedonians, and it is possible to find Rumanian Macedonians. You will NOT, however, find a single Christian Macedonian who is not a Serbian, a Bulgarian, a Greek, or a Rumanian. They all curse the Turk, and they love Macedonia. But it is Greek Macedonia, or Bulgarian Macedonia, and their eyes flame with passion, whilst their fingers seek the triggers of their guns”. He further adds “I have some hope that in years to come the inhabitants will think less of their Turkish, Bulgarian or Greek Origin and a great deal more with the fact that they are all Macedonians”[2].

Edmund Spencer in his “Travels in European Turkey, in 1850…”writes “The population of Uskioub [Note: Modern Skopje], consisting of Arnouts, Jews, Armenians, Zinzars, Greeks, Bulgarians and Serbians, amounts to upwards of twelve thousand” [3]. Again another clear evidence there was no “Macedonian” ethnicity back then but instead it´s a modern “invention”.

Additionally, John Van Antwerp Fine gives us a realistic portrait of the situation in the Macedonian region by writing: “Until the late nineteenth century both outside observers and those Bulgaro-Macedonians who had an ethnic consciousness believed that their group, which is NOW two separate nationalities, comprised a SINGLE people, THE BULGARIANS [4]. Thus the reader should IGNORE references to ethnic Macedonians in the Middle Ages which appear in some modern works. In the Middle Ages and into the nineteenth century, the term ´Macedonian´ was used ENTIRELY in reference to a geographical region. Anyone who lived within its confines, regardless of nationality could be called a Macedonian.”.

Furthermore, Arthur Douglas Howden Smith in 1908 adds: “It should be remembered, to begin with, that there is NO Macedonian race, as a distinct type [5]. Macedonians may belong to any of the races of Eastern Europe or Western Asia, as, indeed, they do. A Macedonian Bulgar is just the same as a Bulgar of Bulgaria proper, the old principality, that in October, 1908, at Tirnova, was proclaimed independent of Turkey. He looks the same, talks the same, and very largely, thinks the same way. IN SHORT HE IS OF THE SAME STOCK. There is no difference, whatsoever, between the two branches of the race, except that the Macedonian Bulgars, as a result of their position under the Turkish government, have less culture and education than their northern brethren.”

To help the readers having a more informative view over the issue on stake, I urge them to take a look in the following link. It contains a vast number of excerpts taken by 90 neutral sources, written by travelers, historians, diplomats related to the subject which put an end to the unfounded claims over a so-called “Macedonian “Ethnicity back then. Mr. Stefov, conveniently for his agenda, chooses to ignore all the overwhelming evidence.

 
 
 

 

http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/2008/04/28/ultimate-source-list-of-internet-about-the-bulgarian-origins-of-slavs-in-fyrom/Lets return back to the core issue of Mr. Stefov´s article. Namely the ethnicity of Ancient Macedonians. Of course there is no issue at all, whether the modern Slavs

descendants of the Slavic tribes that invaded the Balkan peninsula centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom have any link with ancient Macedonians. Obviously as verified by any serious historian, they haven´t!!!

 

 

 

 

1. The Ancient Macedonians spoke a dialect of the Greek language
Mr. Stefov incorrectly assumes that “This [Koine] was an international language which was used in the Macedonian court and by the Macedonian administration.”. This is simply fallacious and deserves an immediate rectification. Koine became the international language BECAUSE of Alexander´s campaign. Prior to Alexander´s campaign, ancient people like Illyrians, Persians, Paeonians, Indians, Carthaginians, Romans, Thracians, Egyptians, Dardanians did NOT speak Greek. Most of them begun to speak Greek (Koine) AFTER Alexander´s pan-Hellenic campaign to Asia. Therefore Mr. Stefov´s conclusions are entirely wrong since his own premises are erroneous in the first place.

The eminent linguist Olivier Masson states “For a long while Macedonian on mastics, which we know relatively well thanks to history, literary authors, and epigraphy, has played a considerable role in the discussion [6]. In our view the Greek character of most names is obvious and it is difficult to think of a Hellenization due to wholesale borrowing. ´Ptolemaios´ is attested as early as Homer, ´Ale3avdros´ occurs next to Mycenaean feminine a-re-ka-sa-da-ra- (´Alexandra´), ´Laagos´, then ´Lagos´, matches the Cyprian ´Lawagos´, etc. The small minority of names which do not look Greek, like ´Arridaios´ or ´Sabattaras´, may be due to a substratum or adstatum influences (as elsewhere in Greece). Macedonian may then be seen as a Greek dialect, characterized by its marginal position and by local pronunciations (like ´Berenika´ for ´Ferenika´, etc.). Yet in contrast with earlier views which made of it an Aeolic dialect (O.Hoffmann compared Thessalian) we must by now think of a link with North-West Greek (Locrian, Aetolian, Phocidian, Epirote). This view is supported by the recent discovery at Pella of a curse tablet (4th cent. BC) which may well be the first ´Macedonian´ text attested (provisional publication by E.Voutyras; cf. the Bulletin Epigraphique in Rev.Et.Grec.1994, no.413); the text includes an adverb ´opoka´ which is not Thessalian. We must wait for new discoveries, but we may tentatively conclude that Macedonian is a dialect related to North-West Greek.”

 
 

2. The ancient Macedonians prayed to the same Greek gods as the ancient Greeks.

The poorly-chosen argumentation reveals Mr.Stefov´s inconsistence with ancient history. His lack of evidence subsequently forces him to produce irrelevant anachronistic analogies with…Christianity even if it is more than obvious we are talking about issues having to do merely with classical ages. Mr. Stefov, for your discomfort, it is only Greeks which gave their deities the familiar Greek epithets, such as Agoraios, Basileus, Olympios, Hypsistos of Zeus, Basileia of Hera, Soter of Apollo, Hagemona and Soteira of Artemis, Boulaia of Hestia, etc and naturally Macedonians as being Greek themselves, were doing similarly which certainly is not the case for non-Greek people. Furthermore nowadays historians agree that Macedonians had the religious and cultural features of the rest Hellenic world.

The worship of the twelve Olympian gods in Macedonia is undoubted

and it is shown explicitly in the treaty between Philip V and Hannibal of Carthage “`In the presence of Zeus, Hera and Apollo …and in the presence of ALL THE GODS who possess Macedonia AND THE REST OF HELLAS” [7].

 

 
3. The ancient Macedonians united the ancient Greek city states and spread the “Hellenic” language and culture to the known world.
Mr. Stefov adds further his own misguided perception which is the epitome of misinformation. He states “Macedonia fought and defeated the so called “Greeks” in battle and subjugated them from 338 BC until 206 BC when they were briefly liberated and again subjugated by the Romans”.

This is another terrible effort to create the wrong impression amongst the readers that “Macedonians fought Greeks in Chaeronea”. Contrarily, in Chaeronea the opposing sides were:

 

ξύμμαχα και υπήκοα

[allied and SUBJECTED]. One line of approach was direct annexation attempted disastrously by Perdiccas II and successfully by Philip.”Prof. Bosworth adds “Lyncestis probably co-operated with the Illyrian invaders as before in the war against Archelaus, the chaos in lower Macedon at the accession of Amyntas was an ideal time to avenge the annexation attempted by Perdiccas and probably by Archelaus”.
Essentially Mr. Stefov just managed with his above wrong assertion to dissolve his own self-made ´construction´ of ancient Macedonian history speaking about a “unified” Macedonian kingdom.
In relation to the spread of Greek language and culture declares quite amusingly that: “As for spreading the so-called “Hellenic” language and culture, there is no evidence that the Macedonians exclusively did this for the sole purpose of honoring the “Greeks”. The Macedonians gave the world what the Macedonians had and considered to be of value”.

I will briefly analyze the falsification of the author´s assertion, before presenting an enumeration of ancient sources [9] proving that Alexander launched a Pan-Hellenic campaign against Persia and through his conquests spread Hellenism in a vast colonizing wave throughout the Near East. Furthermore he created economically and culturally, a single world stretching from Greece to the Punjab in India with Greek (koine) as lingua franca. He built a network of almost thirty Greek cities throughout the empire, a building program that was expanded by later Hellenistic rulers. These became enclaves of Greek culture. Here gymnasia, baths, and theaters were built. The upper classes spoke koine Greek, wore Greek dress, absorbed Greek learning, adopted Greek customs, and took part in Greek athletics. Ancient sources reports as such and the pan-Hellenic character of his campaign were the definitive statements of the Macedonian royalty and nobility. We find Greek language, poleis, architecture, and art expand As far east as India. Even in Judaea of Roman times, there was a group of Jews called “The Hellenists”. The Greek language survived in the Indian region as late as about AD 120, when the Kushan king Kanishka, who ruled western India, Bactria, and Sogdiana (in an inscription) declared that Greek was to be replaced by “Aryan” (the Bactrian language).

It would be essential to complete this reply with numerous excerpts showing exactly how ancient Macedonians felt themselves about their own ethnicity. After all this is what matters mostly.

 
 

 

ChaeroneaCombatants
Side A´
Macedonia, Thessaly, Epirus, Aetolia, Northern Phocis, Epicnemidian Locrians*

Vs

Side B´

Athens, Beotian League (Thebes, etc), Euboean League, Achaean League, Corinth, Megara, Corcyra, Acarnania, Ambracia, Southern Phocis.

Neutral sides

Sparta, Argos, Arcadia, Messene. The three last had alliances both with Athens and Philip but their pro-Macedonian activity of 344/3 BC showed they were leaning towards Philip. However they didn´t sent aid to Chaeronea in Philip´s side because of the blocking in Isthmus by Corinth and Megara. Sparta had withdrawn almost entirely from Greek affairs in 344 BC.

Elis had an alliance with Philip though they didn´t take part in Chaeronea but showed their pro-Macedonian feelings by joining their forces with Philip in the invasion of Laconia in the autumn of 338 BC.

In other words, we find on both sides Greeks!!! We are dealing apparently with a Greek civil war!!

If this is translated to Mr. Stefov´s illusionary world that “Macedonians fought Greeks” then following the same irrational line of thought, we have to assume in Coronea “Spartans also confronted Greeks”.

Battle of Coronea (394 BC)

Combatants

Sparta Vs Thebes, Argos, and allies

In addition, the author adds “So, according to “Greek” logic, the Macedonians united the so-called “Greek” city states by subjugating and subordinating them under Macedonian control. By the same “Greek” logic we can conclude that Hitler too, in WWII, united the Europeans by subjugating them and placing them under German control.”

Here we get a trustful and genuine proof of the author´s selective quotation and hypocrisy. If we are to take his assertion as truthful, then the author ignores conveniently the fact that even the “Unification” between Lower Macedonia and the Upper Macedonian kingdoms by the Argead Royal house was forceful. In fact the annexation of Upper Macedonia took centuries to be successful.

According to the eminent historian prof. A. B. Bosworth [8]

“The upper kingdoms then had a constant struggle to preserve their independence and fostered alliances with the peoples to the west and north. On the other hand the policy of the kings of Macedon was to make the recalcitrant mountaineers truly “

 

 

1. Alexander I, king of Macedon:“Men of Athens… Had I not greatly AT HEART the COMMON welfare of GREECE I should not have come to tell you; but I AM MYSELF GREEK by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery. …If you prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the GREEK CAUSE, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians. I am ALEXANDER of MACEDON.”

Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45, translated by G.Rawlinson]

 

2. Alexander The Great:“Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury […] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks”

(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)
 

 

 

3. Alexander the Great speaking to his troops:There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service — but how different is their cause from ours ! They will be fighting for pay— and not much of it at that; WE on the contrary shall fight for GREECE, and OUR HEARTS WILL BE IN IT. As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers of Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia.

Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt

 

 4. Alexander The Great and Diogenes

“But he said, ´If I were not Alexandros, I should be Diogenes´; that is to say: `If it were not my purpose to combine barbarian things with things HELLENIC, to traverse and civilize every continent, to search out the uttermost parts of land and sea, TO PUSH THE BOUNDS OF MACEDONIA TO THE FARTHEST OCEAN, AND TO DISSEMINATE AND SHOWER THE BLESSINGS OF HELLENIC JUSTICE and peace over every nation, I should not be content to sit quietly in the luxury of idle power, but I should emulate the frugality of Diogenes. But as things are, forgive me Diogenes, that I imitate Herakles, and emulate Perseus, and follow in the footsteps of Dionysos, the divine author and progenitor of my family, and DESIRE THAT VICTORIOUS HELLENES SHOULD DANCE AGAIN in India […]“

 

 

 

 5. Alexander the Great dedication to Athena:

Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks, except the Lacedaemonians, from the barbarian inhabitants in AsiaMany more excerpts can be found on:

 
 

 

 Notes:

1] “Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), Page 5
2] “Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), Page17

3] “Travels in European Turkey, in 1850: Through Bosnia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Thrace,…” By Edmund Spencer, page 28, Published 1851

4] The Early Medieval Balkans: a critical survey from the sixth to the late twelfth century By John Van Antwerp Fine, Page 37

5] Arthur Douglas Howden Smith, “Fighting the Turk in the Balkans: An American´s Adventures with the Macedonian Revolutionists”, 1908, p. 4-5

6] Olliver Masson, 1996, “Oxford Classical Dictionary: ´Macedonian Language”.

7] Polybius 7.9.1-7; Treaty of alliance between king Philip V of Macedonia and Hannibal

8] ´Philip II and Upper Macedonia´ by A. B. Bossworth, p.100

9] (Aelian ´Varia Historia´ 13.11; Arrian I.16.7, I12.1-2, Plutarch Ages. 15.4, Moralia I, 328D, 329A, Alex. 15, 33, 37.6-7; Diod. 16.95.1-2, 17.67.1; Callisthenes 2.3.4-5, 2.4.5, 2.4.7-8, 3.1.2-4; Arrian “Indica” XXXIII, XXXVIII, XXIX, ´Anab.´ Arrian I.16.7, II, 14, 4, 3.18.11-12 ; Polybius IX.35.2, IX.34.3, 17.4.9; Curtius 3.3.6, 4.1.10-11, 4.5.11, 4.14.21, 5.6.1, 5.7.3, 5.7.11, 8.1.29)

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Conclusion: As it is evident from the extensive analysis of the facts, Mr. Stefov´s article consists of an overall historical falsification and distorted presentation of facts. Of course it´s his and his people right to denounce for whatever reason this may be, their well-attested from all sources Slavic/Bulgarian origin and history but it´s not their right to usurp the history and heritage which rightfully and evidently belongs to Greece. I hope that Mr. Stefov and the people he represents will eventually find a name which represents their heritage - “Macedonia” evidently does not!
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Pan-Macedonian President Nina Gatzoulis Speaks on Hellenic Human Rights Abuses commited by FYROM. The Rally was held at United States Mission to the UN, Located at 140 East 45th Street (between Third and Lexington Avenues)

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When one studies genetics at a population level, one should not use one gene as a comparator. By doing so, they are using biased methods that will lead to misleading results. By chance, one gene may be similar between two totally different populations – simply BY CHANCE. One has to analyze MANY genes in order to link populations.

 

What did Arnaiz-Villena and his Skopjean partners do?

 

Well one way to simplify their analysis is the following: If we imagine that populations are animals, and if we analyze how similar they are one from another, we can understand how flawed Arnaiz-Villena’s analysis really is. Let’s say that FYROMians are tigers, Greeks are elephants, Ethiopians are dolphins, and other Europeans are various four legged land mammals. According to Arnaiz-Villena and his colleagues:

But elephants are like dolphins…

 

You can see how ridiculous this logic is. In reality, elephants are closer to other land mammals because they live on land, have four legs, and don’t have a blowhole. But if one were to only look at the colour gray, then he/she can make the assumption that elephants are closer to dolphins!

 

How did the scientific community react to Arnaiz-Villena’s flawed science? See Dr. Cavalli-Sforza’s letter of complaint to Nature, one of the largest and most respected scientific journals:

 

As Greeks…as human beings, we protest this horrendous use of hate and racism directed at us by ultra-nationalists in FYROM and its diaspora. We wish to express our view to them that calling us “blacks from sub-Saharan Africa” is not demeaning to us. Ethiopians are an admirable people with a rich culture and long history. Most are fellow Orthodox Christians and we share religious ties too. If FYROM’s ultra-nationalists feel that by calling us blacks (using inherently racist and flawed pseudoscience) we will be bothered then maybe they should come to terms with their own racism and dreams of blond racial purity.

 

By Christos 

 

 

 

 

 

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In their follow-up paper, an explanation was provided for the first paper’s findings, probably because when one submits a manuscript to a scientific journal, there are word limits and they thus required a second paper to describe their theories in greater detail. It is clear that they understand their findings are against all historical evidence when they claim that there needs to be a revision of history in order to fit in their theories.

Another completely ridiculous assumption is how the Japanese seem to be related to sub-Saharans as well. Using their faulty analysis, they link the Japanese to Ethiopians and Greeks and show it in a figure in their paper BUT DO NOT MENTION IT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE REST OF THE PAPER. This explanatory hypothetical paper completely ignores this finding!

 

 

The authors of these 2 manuscripts take their pseudoscience a step further trying to explain that because there are Greeks who “Negroid” genes, their theory of black ancestry in Greeks is true!

 

First of all, Greeks are not the only “Caucasians” to carry “Negroid” genes. All humans “races” (for lack of a better word) have “Negroid” genes in their DNA. The origin of the human race is well known to have come from Africa. Arnaiz-Villena and his team’s theories do not hold water based on their assumption.

 

At the end of their papers, they provide references that they used to explain their hypothesis. Not only do they misquote Herodotus, they use Bernal’s Afro-centric theory to link the Greeks directly to Africans. M. Bernal views can be viewed as skewed and politically motivated to counter 19th Century white racism against Africans. His book Black Athena was not well received in the academic community. In fact, in 2003, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute (a non-profit US educational organization comprised of over 50 000 academics) listed Black Athena as one of the worst books of the twentieth century.

 

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THE RELATIONSHIP OF GREEKS TO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS?

An Analysis of Hate and Racism Coming from Skopjeans;

The Arnaiz-Villena Theory:

Another Skopjean Myth Exposed and Explained

 

Over the last few years there has been a great deal of historical revision stemming from Skopje’s need to legitimize it’s state’s place in the society of nations. As FYROM’s first Foreign Minister stated on Greek television MEGA in November 1996:

 

In the Balkans, to be recognized as a nation you need to have a history of 2.000 to 3.000 years old. Since, therefore, you made us invent a history, WE INVENTED IT!!”

 

 

 

However, an even uglier trend among Skopjeans and their sympathizers is the idea of negating Greece’s legitimacy to not only Greek history, but Greece’s legitimacy to it’s citizens’ dignity as human beings. Using pseudoscience and theories reminiscent of Hitler’s and Goebbels’s ideas about a blond blue-eyed Aryan nation, they fill the internet with hate and lies aimed at Greeks who they now call “black” and “African”. Furthermore, they claim that Greeks could not be related to Ancient Macedonians because the Ancient Macedonians were not black. Even more shocking is the theory that Ancient Macedonians are directly related to the citizens of FYROM because they both are supposedly blonder than the Greeks. This is of course ridiculous as the citizens of FYROM are not blonder or taller than their southern neighbors the Greeks. Somehow they think that by calling Greeks “African” it is shameful to Greeks. It is clear that it is Skopjean propagandists that think blacks are inferior to whites otherwise they would not be promoting such racist propaganda. This disturbing trend is becoming louder over the web and has gained semi-official status in Skopje and its diaspora. Slowly but surely Greeks are “dark-skinned”, and “homosexuals”, and an inferior race. In a twist of nationalist hysteria, Skopjean propagandists call Greeks “fascists” and “Nazi racists” because they view Greece’s opposition to their adoption of the Greek name “Macedonia” and their appropriation of Greek history as their own as simply chauvinistic and ultimately racist. They also feel that a huge wrong has been done to them claiming that Greeks have always oppressed “ethnic Macedonians”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are some examples of hate messages posted by Skopjeans and their diaspora on Internet forums:

 

“WHEN A GREEK LOOKS IN THE MIRROR…
THEY SEE…??
UGLINESS…
DARK FEATURES..
DRESS LIKE AN ALBANIAN
SPEAK LIKE A TURK..
AND HAVE THOUGHTS OF HAVING SEX WITH
MINORS
BOYS
ANIMALS
AND YOUR OWN MOTHER..
SO WHEN YOU DO SEE YOUR SELF WHAT DO YOU SAY..
I’M “GREEK”
EXACTLY..
MIXED BREED
CROSSED BREED
THIEF
LIAR
BRAINWASHED
LOSER
PEDER
PAEDOPHILE
FROM TURKEY AND ETHIOPIA WITH STOLEN HISTORY…
TAKE A MINUTE TO THINK ABOUT IT..
BE PROUD BE GREEK… ”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Macedonia is Macedonian.

Everybody HATES the Ethiopian gayreeks.”

 

 

 

“The Greeks have a long boisterous history of homosexuality, pedafilia [sic] and bestiality. That is a history to be proud of!”

                                                                                    grikos homosexolopoulos

 

 

 

 

Where and when did all of this start? Starting in 2001, Antonio Arnaiz-Villena, a Spanish geneticist, published three papers claiming that modern Greeks are closely related to Ethiopians, but modern “Macedonians” are one of the oldest peoples in Europe closely related to Basques and therefore descendants of Alexander the Great. He and his team (including K. Dimitrovski, M. Blagoevska, and V. Zdravkovska from the Institute of Blood Transfusion in Skopje) conveniently used one gene to link Greeks to Ethiopians and “ethnic Macedonians” to other Europeans. The first paper was published in an obscure genetics journal called Tissue Antigens in 2001, and the second paper (which was an explanatory paper of the first hypothesis) was published in the same journal in 2002. The third paper which was initially published in the journal Human Immunology was eventually withdrawn because it dealt with the politics of the Middle East and involved an analysis of Jewish and Palestinian DNA as well.

 

As a scientist, I am appalled and I do not consider myself a colleague of these individuals because they have cleverly used science as a cloak of hatred against Greeks. Politics and medicine/science last mixed during the reign of the Nazis.

 

Let’s analyze the 2 first papers:

 

 

 

They further go on to quote Herodotus of all people and claim that he said, “Dorians (Macedonians) were not considered Greek”!

 

In fact the complete opposite is true. Herodotus repeatedly has written about the Greekness of Ancient Macedonians. In his work Histories, he writes of the Greeks: “… those who dwell in our land are called Ionians, Aeolians and Dorians.” Herodotus also explains how Alexander I of Macedonia was Greek and was eventually admitted to the Olympic Games:

 

Men of Athens, had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery.

If you prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the Hellenic cause, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians. I am Alexander of Macedon. ” (Histories, 9.45)

 

When Alexander I attempted to compete at Olympia, Herodotus relates howthe Greeks who were to run against him wanted to bar him from the race, saying that the contest should be for Greeks and not for foreigners. Alexander, however, proving himself to be an Argive, was judged [by the officials] to be a Greek.(Histories, 5:22)

 

For further quotes from Herodotus, please visit Ancient writers about Macedonia - Herodotus

Further in the paper, they discuss their findings and start hypothesizing how Greeks could be related to sub-Saharan Africans:And apparently, according to their revisionist view of history, the migrating Ethiopians skipped over Crete so they didn’t “admix”, as they call it, with Cretans and settled directly in all of Greece sparing ALL other Mediterranean areas.

 

 

 The following is their theory along with a map showing this supposed migration (from the second paper):

 

Notice on this map (above), how the Ethiopians “flew” over Crete to land directly in Greece.

TO BE CONTINUED!!