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	<title>Comments on: Risto Stefov and the falsification of Ancient Macedonia History Part 4</title>
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		<title>By: vaginosis dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>vaginosis dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just wanted to mention, I liked this article. It was inspiring. Keep on posting!&#124;&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just wanted to mention, I liked this article. It was inspiring. Keep on posting!||</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos Erythraia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos Erythraia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fine example of severe brainwashing surrounded by ignorance is found on the above post of the Bulgarian in self-denial. The author embarks on bringing childish arguments which make anyone wonder whether there is anyone in the State of FYROM to carry an average IQ.

&quot;If alexander was greek why did he conquer himself because he conquered greece&quot;

Following this absurb line of thought, we should conclude Atheneans were not Greeks because under their empire they had conquered most of Greece, similarly Spartans couldnt be Greeks because after Peloponnesian war they were the Masters of Greece while one even more explicit example should be  Upper Macedonians couldnt have been Macedonians because they were Subjected to Argead Macedonians. I hope the readers comprehend with what brainwashed Idiots we are dealing with.

&quot;Also we hear that Phillip &amp; alexander were philhellenes ie they loved greek culture&quot;

Really ? Is that what you were taught in school? Philip and Alexander the great were...Philhellenes? boy, not only you are dumb but here you prove you are a shameless LIAR since nowhere in ancient sources this is written. Another case that you take an unfounded claim out of your ass. I would continue with shooting down each one of your absurb claims but you simply dont worth our time. You will remain wilfully a brainless Idiot.

PS Who could imagine it? The Spartan Agesilaus... a Philhellene couldnt be Greek!!! Idiots Bulgars!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine example of severe brainwashing surrounded by ignorance is found on the above post of the Bulgarian in self-denial. The author embarks on bringing childish arguments which make anyone wonder whether there is anyone in the State of FYROM to carry an average IQ.</p>
<p>&#8220;If alexander was greek why did he conquer himself because he conquered greece&#8221;</p>
<p>Following this absurb line of thought, we should conclude Atheneans were not Greeks because under their empire they had conquered most of Greece, similarly Spartans couldnt be Greeks because after Peloponnesian war they were the Masters of Greece while one even more explicit example should be  Upper Macedonians couldnt have been Macedonians because they were Subjected to Argead Macedonians. I hope the readers comprehend with what brainwashed Idiots we are dealing with.</p>
<p>&#8220;Also we hear that Phillip &amp; alexander were philhellenes ie they loved greek culture&#8221;</p>
<p>Really ? Is that what you were taught in school? Philip and Alexander the great were&#8230;Philhellenes? boy, not only you are dumb but here you prove you are a shameless LIAR since nowhere in ancient sources this is written. Another case that you take an unfounded claim out of your ass. I would continue with shooting down each one of your absurb claims but you simply dont worth our time. You will remain wilfully a brainless Idiot.</p>
<p>PS Who could imagine it? The Spartan Agesilaus&#8230; a Philhellene couldnt be Greek!!! Idiots Bulgars!</p>
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		<title>By: macedonia for the macedonians</title>
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		<dc:creator>macedonia for the macedonians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for lying because that&#039;s what you have been doing all along.You are trying to have it both ways you allways say that the macedonians ceased to exist when the slavs came &amp; now you say that the greeks are macedonian what rot what a liar.If alexander was greek
why did he conquer himself because he conquered greece.Greece resisted &amp; fought against him.Also we hear that Phillip &amp; alexander were philhellenes ie they loved greek culture.Also why was macedonia excluded from the olympic games because of her non greek nature.yOU FORGET THE ANTI MACEDONIAN sentiment that existed &amp; wars were thought between greece&amp; macedonia.Under roman rule macedoniawas a seperate province to greece distinct to macedonia.Note any good person can distinguish the truth given half a brain.In 1912 why did greece go in  to take macedonia &amp; sign the treaty of bucharest against the wishes of the macedonian people.A land that was never occupied by greece why?? Greece is a fabricated word &amp; you are all fakes .The macedonian people know who they are you are just lucky to now but the world will know what you have done &amp; what you are doing you liars!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for lying because that&#8217;s what you have been doing all along.You are trying to have it both ways you allways say that the macedonians ceased to exist when the slavs came &amp; now you say that the greeks are macedonian what rot what a liar.If alexander was greek<br />
why did he conquer himself because he conquered greece.Greece resisted &amp; fought against him.Also we hear that Phillip &amp; alexander were philhellenes ie they loved greek culture.Also why was macedonia excluded from the olympic games because of her non greek nature.yOU FORGET THE ANTI MACEDONIAN sentiment that existed &amp; wars were thought between greece&amp; macedonia.Under roman rule macedoniawas a seperate province to greece distinct to macedonia.Note any good person can distinguish the truth given half a brain.In 1912 why did greece go in  to take macedonia &amp; sign the treaty of bucharest against the wishes of the macedonian people.A land that was never occupied by greece why?? Greece is a fabricated word &amp; you are all fakes .The macedonian people know who they are you are just lucky to now but the world will know what you have done &amp; what you are doing you liars!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must counter the extremist voices of the various mixed races who just can&#039;t handle the fact that the Hellenic race, language and culture has survived essentially to this day and has laid the foundations of the finer aspects of so-called Western Civilization and their languages.

Despite the often monumental upheavals - and even the worst efforts of other mixed races to deny this extraordinary achievement - this legacy is carved in marble for all to see and cannot be erased by perverse and pathetic attempts to rewrite history.

From the early neolithic civilizations which evolved though the ages, highlighted by the Cycladic, Mycenaean, Minoan, Spartan, Athenian, Macedonian and Byzantine empires, this unique culture mostly embraced and embodied the finer aspects and aspirations of humanity through reason, knowledge, idealism, philosophy and optimism. 

Could this be a reason for the antagonism by those who seem mostly to have embraced and embodied the worst aspects of humanity, by exploiting fear, ignorance, superstition and fatalism. I wonder!?!  

The name game regarding FYROM has gone on long enough.

Macedonia and Alexander&#039;s legacy was and always will be Greek, carved in marble for all to see. The FORMER Yugoslav (so-called) Republic of &#039;Macedonia&#039; was and, unless some common sense prevails regarding a realistic and practical future as a country, always will be a sad state of affairs.

The reason that this absurd &quot;claim&quot; by the Bulgarian half of FYROM has not succeeded in hi-jacking the ancient Greek name of Macedonia is that despite all the cynical and hypocritical &quot;Realpolitik&quot; games going on in the region, there are real world issues and historical facts that cannot be avoided.

It is also why the UN and EU are still insisting on a compromise on the name - which is more than this fabricated mish-mash of a country deserves - but regrettably, it is deemed that such a settlement will serve other interests in the region.

It is also why all the &quot;angry demands&quot; and &quot;claims&quot; by these hi-jackers of history which, when seen all together, manage to mostly contradict themselves or end up in &quot;indignant&quot; yet baseless and historically absurd &quot;arguments&quot;.

It remains a sad state of affairs when a mixed group of slavo-Bulgarians, who are mostly a left over from the Balkan wars and Tito&#039;s clumsy attempts of territorial gains (and access to the Mediterranean sea) try to hijack the ancient Greek name of Macedonia to give themselves an &quot;identity&quot;.

Something which was clearly stated by US Secretary of State Edward R. Stettinius (Dec. 26, 1944) &quot;This government considers talk of Macedonian “nation,” Macedonian “Fatherland,” or Macedonian “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.&quot;

Further more it should also be made clear that even Bulgaria - despite it&#039;s past agendas - doesn&#039;t recognize the existence of &quot;macedonians&quot; - even in the so-called republic of macedonia!!! - quite rightly considering all FYROM &quot;macedonians&quot; as Bulgarians.

On the other hand, the heritage, cities and monuments of Alexander were, are and always will be GREEK, carved in marble that no devious or pathetic attempts to re-write history or brown nosing those who indulge in so-called &quot;great games&quot; can erase.

This sad and latest episode of these displaced Bulgarians - who also have to deal with a large Albanian minority with their agendas - is more a case of &#039;the mouse that roared&#039; (with the cynical &quot;support&quot; of those with rather devious agendas in the region) than a case of legitimate &quot;claims&quot; to a so-called &quot;ethnic&quot; identity.

If the &quot;supporters&quot; of the FYROM leadership genuinely want a solution to their problems and stability for their &quot;country&quot; and the Balkans, it is time to put a stop to this nonsense and deal with the realities of not only the region but of the real world social-economic and environmental problems that we ALL have to face in THIS century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must counter the extremist voices of the various mixed races who just can&#8217;t handle the fact that the Hellenic race, language and culture has survived essentially to this day and has laid the foundations of the finer aspects of so-called Western Civilization and their languages.</p>
<p>Despite the often monumental upheavals &#8211; and even the worst efforts of other mixed races to deny this extraordinary achievement &#8211; this legacy is carved in marble for all to see and cannot be erased by perverse and pathetic attempts to rewrite history.</p>
<p>From the early neolithic civilizations which evolved though the ages, highlighted by the Cycladic, Mycenaean, Minoan, Spartan, Athenian, Macedonian and Byzantine empires, this unique culture mostly embraced and embodied the finer aspects and aspirations of humanity through reason, knowledge, idealism, philosophy and optimism. </p>
<p>Could this be a reason for the antagonism by those who seem mostly to have embraced and embodied the worst aspects of humanity, by exploiting fear, ignorance, superstition and fatalism. I wonder!?!  </p>
<p>The name game regarding FYROM has gone on long enough.</p>
<p>Macedonia and Alexander&#8217;s legacy was and always will be Greek, carved in marble for all to see. The FORMER Yugoslav (so-called) Republic of &#8216;Macedonia&#8217; was and, unless some common sense prevails regarding a realistic and practical future as a country, always will be a sad state of affairs.</p>
<p>The reason that this absurd &#8220;claim&#8221; by the Bulgarian half of FYROM has not succeeded in hi-jacking the ancient Greek name of Macedonia is that despite all the cynical and hypocritical &#8220;Realpolitik&#8221; games going on in the region, there are real world issues and historical facts that cannot be avoided.</p>
<p>It is also why the UN and EU are still insisting on a compromise on the name &#8211; which is more than this fabricated mish-mash of a country deserves &#8211; but regrettably, it is deemed that such a settlement will serve other interests in the region.</p>
<p>It is also why all the &#8220;angry demands&#8221; and &#8220;claims&#8221; by these hi-jackers of history which, when seen all together, manage to mostly contradict themselves or end up in &#8220;indignant&#8221; yet baseless and historically absurd &#8220;arguments&#8221;.</p>
<p>It remains a sad state of affairs when a mixed group of slavo-Bulgarians, who are mostly a left over from the Balkan wars and Tito&#8217;s clumsy attempts of territorial gains (and access to the Mediterranean sea) try to hijack the ancient Greek name of Macedonia to give themselves an &#8220;identity&#8221;.</p>
<p>Something which was clearly stated by US Secretary of State Edward R. Stettinius (Dec. 26, 1944) &#8220;This government considers talk of Macedonian “nation,” Macedonian “Fatherland,” or Macedonian “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further more it should also be made clear that even Bulgaria &#8211; despite it&#8217;s past agendas &#8211; doesn&#8217;t recognize the existence of &#8220;macedonians&#8221; &#8211; even in the so-called republic of macedonia!!! &#8211; quite rightly considering all FYROM &#8220;macedonians&#8221; as Bulgarians.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the heritage, cities and monuments of Alexander were, are and always will be GREEK, carved in marble that no devious or pathetic attempts to re-write history or brown nosing those who indulge in so-called &#8220;great games&#8221; can erase.</p>
<p>This sad and latest episode of these displaced Bulgarians &#8211; who also have to deal with a large Albanian minority with their agendas &#8211; is more a case of &#8216;the mouse that roared&#8217; (with the cynical &#8220;support&#8221; of those with rather devious agendas in the region) than a case of legitimate &#8220;claims&#8221; to a so-called &#8220;ethnic&#8221; identity.</p>
<p>If the &#8220;supporters&#8221; of the FYROM leadership genuinely want a solution to their problems and stability for their &#8220;country&#8221; and the Balkans, it is time to put a stop to this nonsense and deal with the realities of not only the region but of the real world social-economic and environmental problems that we ALL have to face in THIS century.</p>
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