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The following collection of Macedonian Newspapers is what Skopjans hate most since it completely shatters their illusions that “Macedonia was a term forbidden in Greece” prior to 1988. Contrarily Macedonian Newspapers were in use  from 19th cent. even prior to the invention of the Skopjan fictitious “nationality”.

Newspapers like:

- Echo tis Makedonias

- Dytiki Makedonia

- Makedonikos Epinohr

- H Pammakedoniki

- Makedoniki Enosis

- Makedoniki echo

- H Makedoniki

- Makedonikos Astir

- Makedoniki foni

- Elliniki Makedonia

- Makedonika Xronika

- Makedonia

- Makedonikos

- MAkedonika Salpismata

- Makedonia

- Makedonomachos

- Makedonikos Typos

- Makedoniki Echo

- Makedoniki

- Chronika Dytikis Makedonias

- Makedonikon Vima

- Makedonis Gh

- Makedoniki Floga

- Makedonika Themata

- Makedonika Spor

- Makedonika Nea tis Thessalonikis

- Makedoniki Neolaia

- Makedonikes selides

- Makedonopoulo

- Makedonika grammata

- Makedonika

- Makedonikon hmerologion

- La Macedoine

are the best evidence against FYROM’s misinformation and Lies.

Congrats to Samios Makedonas for his collection!!

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It appears to be really embarassing for Skopjans, whenever they find any archaeological discovery, this will reveal explicitly the…Greekness of ancient Macedonians. Furthermore, the archaeological evidence completely shatters their own illusions of grandeur.

Pics from the statue of goddess Nike unearthed today by archaeologists working at the modern Styberra locality, near the remains of a gymnasium. Seems that Skopjans must…re-consider their own petty allegations that ancient Macedonians didnt share the same gods like the rest of Greeks. After all archaeology prove them always false!!!

 

By Vasco

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1.  Skopjans hypocritically, showing their real racist face, tend occasionally to use the term ”Turks” as a derogatory remark against Greeks. However they conveniently forget:

Fact:

(1) Athens was captured from Ottoman Turks in 1458 and  the city was liberated in 1821.

(2) Skopje was captured from Ottoman turks in 1392 and the city was liberated in 1912.

(3) Thessaloniki was captured from Ottoman turks in 1430 and the city was liberated in 1912.

(4) Trapezounta was captured from Ottoman turks in 1461, and the Pontian refugees migrated to Greece in 1923.

Therefore,
Skopje was under Turkish yoke for 520 years.

Athens was under Turkish yoke for 363.

Thessaloniki was under Turkish yoke for 480 years.

Pontian refugees were under Turkish yoke for 462 years before they came to Greece.

Conclusion:

Skopje was  under Turkey for:

157 years MORE than Athens.
40 years MORE than Thessaloniki.
58 years MORE than the Pontian refugees.

2.  Skopjans hypocritically, showing their real racist face, tend occasionally to use the term ”Prosfygi” or “Christian Turks“ as a derogatory remark against Pontian Greeks who settled in Greece.  However they conveniently forget:

Fact:

In the aftermath of Ottoman conquests, the city of Skopje and generally lands of modern FYROM, were subjected to a systematic massive colonization of Ottomans and other Turkic tribes from which a great chunk of today’s FYROM population is originating from, since many of them were christianised (the rest originates from Bulgarian and Slavic settlers)

3. Skopjans hypocritically, tend occasionally to use the claim that “Greek state renamed in 1900s all Slavic placenames in Macedonia, Greece”.  However they conveniently forget:

Fact:

The renaming or, more precisely, the Hellenization, of the majority of toponyms is indicative of the process of homogenization attempted by the Greek state in the context of the modernization of the region and more generally the country. In fact Greek state succeed to restore original ancient Greek placenames found in classical geographical texts. On the other hand its highly hypocritical, Slavs, the same people who initially renamed ALL the original ancient Macedonian/Paeonian/Dardanian placenames to cry for the same thing they…initially did themselves.

For example,

1. Skopje

Even skopje its a changed name since it was originally founded by Dardanians as Skupi.

2. Debar

Another changed name. The first recorded document mentioning Debar is the map of Ptolemy, dating around the middle of the 2nd century, in which it is called Deborus.

3. Delcevo

Wikipedia says during Ottoman times it was called “Sultania” or “Sultaniye” and later Carevo Selo. The town was renamed its present name Delčevo in 1950.

4. Kavadarci

The name Kavadarci is derived from the Greek word, “Kavadion” which means “cape made from a valuable material”. The citizens of Kavadarci being manufacturers of this material, the first recorded use of this name was during the first half of the 19th Century.

5. Kicevo

The original ancient Illyriann name was Uskana . The town belonged to the Illyrian Penestae who inhabited the valley of the Treska/Velcka river and was mentioned for first time in the reign of Perseas, king of Macedon during the Third Macedonian War (171-169 BC). Another ancient name changed by Slavs.

6. Negotino

Negotino was known under the name of Antigoneia. It was founded by the Macedonian king Antigonus II Gonatas, in the period between 278–242 BC.

7. Gostivar

From wikipedia: “Possibly the first mention of the town was made by the Roman historian Livy. He records how during the Third Macedonian War the King of Macedon Perseus at the head of 10000 men, after taking Uskana (Kicevo), attacked Drau-Dak, today Gostivar.

8. Ochrid

Wiki: Historical names include Dassarites , land of the Dexaroi - was, in the view of Hammond an Epirot group a constituent sub-tribe of the Chaones. It was, however. the area of Epirus most subject to Illyrian pressure and was probably heavily affected by the latter.  and the Greek names Lychnidos (Λύχνιδος), Ochrida (Οχρίδα) and Achrida (Αχρίδα), the latter two of which are still in modern usage.

9. Valandovo

Wiki: Evidence of life can be found beginning in the 10th-7th centuries B.C. There is a settlement known as Mal Konstantinopol (Small Constantinople) dating from Roman times, and the life in the Middle Ages is marked by Marco’s Tower. In the vicinity of the town there are also two very important archeological sites – The Isar Marvinci and the knowledge experts have on the existence of the ancient city Idomene.

10. Prilep

The site of the ancient Keramiai - a Pelagonian (and therefore Greek-speaking) town. The plain in which it dominates was known as the Keramesian Plain (Prilepsko Pole in Slavic). It was the northern part of the Pelagonian plain - the southern part, dominated by Heracleia Lynkestis/Bitola is known in Slavic as Bitolsko Pole.

11. Demi Hisar

It was known as SideroKastron when Greeks lived there. Later in Ottomantimes, the name was changed in to ”Demir Hisar” which in their language means ‘’ Iron Mountain’’. Another original greek toponymy renamed.

12. Demir-Kapija

Demir-Kapija is a place already mentioned in Classical times under the name of Stenae (Greek for gorge). In the Middle Ages it was known as a Slav settlement, under the name of Prosek, while today’s name originates from the Turkish reign, meaning “The Iron Gate”.

13. Štip

Originally an ancient Macedonian city called astibo which was renamed later to Štip.

14. Stroumica

Wiki: The town is first mentioned in II century B.C. with the name Astrayon. Later it is known by the name Tiveriopol. It got it’s present name from the slovan settlers.

15. Cepigovo

The ancient Styberra was renamed by Slavs as Cepigovo.

16. Bučin

The ancient Alkomena. Alkomena used to be one of the urban centres of Derriopos.

17. Gevgelija
The ancient Gortynia renamed into Gevgelija.

18.  Titov Veles

It was known in antiquity as Bylazora.

19. Isar-Marvinci

There stood during antiquity according to archaeologists the ancient Idomenai.

20 Vardar

The ancient Bardarios was renamed in Slavic as Vardar.

21. Crna

The ancient Erigon renamed into the Slavic Crna.

 

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For the 3d time in history, Henry Kissinger makes it clear how he feels about Macedonia:
 
‘Greece has historical rights to the name ‘Macedonia’ ‘ was his answer to Skopje’s Parliamentary President of Foreign Affairs and Defense during a meeting on September 4, 2008. Can we say that the current Greek Foreign Ministry feels the same?

From the Greek-Canadian Newspapers “Βήμα” on 13th September of 2008.

However as already pointed out, this was not the first time the experienced diplomat and former US minister, Henry Kissinger had commented about the issue. In 1992 we had:

 

The 1992 Top Management Forum Competing in Global Markets

Henry Kissinger

An Analysis of the Global Geopolitical Environment

Management Centre Europe

18-19 June 1992, Paris
2/10/92

This is an abstract of the minutes kept during the annual meeting of Management Centre Europe held in Paris on June. During the question time at the end of Henry Kissinger’s presentation one of the questions was:

“What is your opinion for the problem which Greece have to accept the name Macedonia which the Skopje Government is trying to implement?”

Mr. Kissinger asked the man who asked the question:

“Are you Greek?”

Reply “Yes”

“Look, I believe that Greece is right to object and I agree with Athens. The reason is that I know History, which is not the case with most of the others including most of the Government and Administration in Washington.

The strength of the Greek case is that of the History which I must say that Athens have not used so far with success.”

Other questions followed.

 

The following are also statements made by the infamous Henry Kissinger and were published from our blog in a previous article on 5th of April 1999 on CNBC show “Hardball”.  Read carefully what H. Kissinger says:

 

 

When the US engages itself in war, there is no substitute for victory, and we have to do what is necessary to prevail. I frequently expressed doubts before we went in there about whether the US should make the Balkans a central point of its foreign policy. But now that we are in, I believe that we have to do what is necessary, and if that requires ground troops, we have to send ground troops”.

When asked what would winning look like in this context. Dr. Kissinger said:

“In this context, it means the removal of Serbian combat forces from Kosovo, the return of refugees and the establishment of some international status for Kosovo that is under some sort of international supervision. Nothing else can now work.”, and added “Serbia is a country of less than 10 million population with poor resources and not very effective army except against unarmed civilians.”

“After the ethnic cleansing and after the aerial bombardment, you cannot ask the refugees to return to Serbian sovereignty. We all talk about self-government for Kosovo. But the Balkans is a whole mixture of ethnic groups that have been thrown together there by a succession of wars. Once the objective in Kosovo has been reached, that will open the chapter of Macedonia, because in Macedonia, there are 800,000 Albanians and it’s going to be a problem to deny them what has just been granted to the Albanians in Kosovo“.

” And when that happens, the Slavs in Macedonia who are almost exclusively Bulgarians, will raise their demands. And so we may face the disintigration of another country. And therefore , the administration absolutly requires some strategy for political settlement of all of the Balkan issues before we are being dragged step by step into becoming the successor of the empires that used to govern there and who had atleast one thing in common, that they were hated by the populations over whom they ruled.”

“Once we have achieved self-government for the people of Kosovo, which I now support, this is not the end of the story. Then we have to consider what happens , to the many ethnic clans that exist in the Balkans to avoid being triggered into crisis after crisis by this sort of issue and especially by the issues that will emerge in Macedonia and maybe even in northern Greece.“, concluded Dr. Kissinger.

 By Christos

 

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Thanks to Giannis V. for sending us the following videos and pictures.

Ohrid inhabitants welcoming the Bulgarian army as Liberators!!! Bulgarians during WWII were collaborators with fascist Germany!!

Bitolia 1942. Anniversary of the “Liberation”

Skopje. April 1942. King Boris III square

 

A picture is worth a thousand words

 

Skopje

Skopje

Boris in Skopje

“Long Live the Awakened Macedonian Bulgarian” (front sign)
“Commune of Lopatica, Bitola” (back sign)



From left to right:
“The Macedonian village, bastion of the Bulgarian spirit
“Greetings from the bread-giving fields of fighters Macedonia”
Bulgaria is our most precious possession

By Giannis V.

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Quite many Slavomacedonians migrated to USA in the begining of 20th century. Lets see in the following  revealing video how they identified themselves through their advertisements . The evidence is overwhelming and shatters modern FYROM’s ultra-nationalism and historical forgery. These people identified themselves as Bulgarians.

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