Fyromian lies over Slavic populations genetics Part II


The Macedonians have a following percentage of Y-haplogroups (male lineages): E3b1 21.4% , I1b 29% , J2 12.2% , R1a 14.7% , R1b 7.8%


Its actually quite funny how people misquote (intentionally?) papers..

According to the paper in question FYROMians have a 6.3% of the subclade J2e-M102 and not 12.2 of J2 which is not entirely presented in the paper.

24.1 and not 21.4 of E3b1

15.2 and not 14.7 of R1a

7.8 but 5.1% of R1b

The only one he managed to get almost right was I1b which is found at a % of 29.1


From this…. Greeks have the same amount of Slav blood as Macedonians in Republic of Macedonia

Actually NO..

In Pericic’s paper specifically in “Table 1” the percentage of “I1b* (xM26)-P37” we find that the source for the percentages of Hellenic results are Rootsi 2004 “Phylogeography of Y-Chromosome Haplogroup I”..
According to Rootsi’s paper we find:


Hg I accounts for more than one-third of paternal linelineages in two distinct regions of Europe: among Scandinavian populations and in the northwestern Balkans (table 1; fig. 1B). Relatively high frequencies are also characteristic of some French regions, like Low Normandy and southern France. Interestingly, a lower frequency of haplogroup I distinguished the Baltic-speaking Latvians (7.0%; 90% CI 3.8%–13.2%) from their northern neighbors, the Finnic-speaking Estonians (18.6%; 90% CI 14.6%–23.4%).Similar cases of even more significant frequency change over a short geographic distance occur between the southern Slavic-speaking populations and their adjacent neighbors: namely, the Slovenians versus the northern Italians (38.2%; 99.9% CI 19.5%–60.2% vs. 4.6%; 99.9% CI 1.4%–11.7%), and Macedonians versus Greeks (30.0%; 95% CI 19.1%–43.8% vs. 13.8%; 95% CI 10.1%–18.5%).

So we find that they have 30% of I, in contrast to the total 13% of Hellenes, if we to take into accound the I1b (xM26)-P37 marker as presented in Pericic we seen not only a major difference between us and our Nothern neighbors (FYROMians 29.1 – Hellenes 8.4) but also similarities between them and other Slavic peoples and 1 non.

Croat 32.4
Serbian 29.2
Moldavia (Gagauz) 24.1
Moldavian 21.7
Slovenian 20.0
Romanian 17.7

Note that Rootsi states that I1b’s homeland is in eastern Europe or the Balkans, add to this that in Ukraine and in some Russian regions the marker is equally high (15-16.7) and things start to fall in place.

Anyway, while it would have really helped to see Bulgarians included in this paper, we can’t but notice how closely related this paper presents them to the Serbs..
I guess they too were part of Alexander’s troops.

By Orphic Hymn

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