In FYROM they are still unearthing ancient Macedonian discoveries in Greek language

Reconstruction of the shield found in locality of Bonče, Pelagonia, 2008: VASILEOS DIMITRIOU

Its really frustrating for Skopjans always to discover ancient Macedonian archaeological findings which reveal the Greekness of Macedonians.

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MACEDONIAN says:

ΣΛΑΒΟΙ ΞΥΠΝΗΣΤΕ!!!!!!! ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ ΔΕΝ ΘΑ ΓΙΝΕΤΑΙ ΠΟΤΕ.ΕΙΣΑΣΤΑΝ,ΕΙΣΤΕ ΚΑΙ ΘΑ ΕΙΣΤΕ ΣΛΑΒΟΙ.ΠΙΟ ΠΑΝΩ ΗΘΕΛΑ ΝΑ ΓΡΑΨΩ MEANS ΚΑΙ ΟΧΙ MINDS.ΤΑ ΑΓΓΛΙΚΑ ΜΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΠΟΛΥ ΚΑΛΑ.

Zaglos says:

Nice conversation!
Below you see some of the Alexander’s private guard, all names has an etymological explanation in Greek languish! Do you understand any of those mister igor? Do you understand what means Alexandros, Filippos, Olympiada? Because there it is a meaning!

‘Old Guards’
Attalos
Hegelochos son of Hippostratos
Parmenion son of Philotas
Philotas son of Parmenion
Kleitos(Melas-Dark) son of Dropides
Kleitos (Lefkos-White)
Antipatros
Antigonos son of Philippos
Alketas son of Orontes and Perdikkas’ Brother
Amyntas son of Andromenes
Simmias son of Andromenes
Attalos
Polemon
Polyperchon son of Simmias
Koinos a son-in-law of Parmenion
Hephaistion
Leonnatos
Krateros
Etairoi-Companions
Erigyios son of Larichos
Laomedon son of Larichos
Harpalos son of Machatas
Ptolemy son of Lagos
Nearchos son of Androtimos
Somatophylakes
Admetos
Seleukos son of Antiochos
Ptolemaios
Arybbas
Demetrios
Menes son of Dionysios
Peukestas son of Alexandros
Lysimachos son of Agathokles
Aristonous son of Peisaios
Peithon son of Krateuas
Autodikos son of Agathokles
Amyntas son of Alexandros
Alexandros son of Polyperchon
Ptolemaios son of Ptolemaios
Philippos
Antikles
Antipatros
Aphthonetos
Aphthonios (Elaptonius)Archedamos
Aretis
Charikles
Epimenes
Eurylochos
Excipinus
Gorgatas
Gorgias
Hekataios
Hermolaos
Iolaos
Metron
Philippos son of Antipatros
Philotas son of Karsis
Sostratos son of Amyntas
Alexandros
Charos
Hegesimachos (Simachos)
Limnaios
Nikanor
Pausanias
Pausanias of Orestis
Philippos son of Agathokles
Commanders of Hypaspists
Nikanor son of Parmenion
Neoptolemos
Addaios
Timandros
Antiochos
Atarrhias son of Deinomenes
Philotas
Amyntas
Antigonos
Amyntas Lynkestes
Theodotos
Hellanikos

MACEDONIAN says:

TO IGOR.OK.MACEDONIAN SPOKE GREEK WAS THE LANGUAGE OF THE TIME EG LIKE ENGLISH IS TODAY.THE GODS,THEIR NAMES,CITY NAMES, ITS SAMES WITH OTHER GREEKS. THE OLYMPIC GAMES ITS ONLY FOR GREEKS.WHY FILIPPOS MEANS?THE NAMES 1)FILLIPOS 2)ALEXANDER 3)ANTIPATROS 4)OLIMPIADA 5)PAFSANIAS WHAT THEY MEAN?

MACEDONIAN says:

IGOR ΕΠΕΙΔΗ ΒΑΡΙΕΜΑΙ ΝΑ ΓΡΑΦΩ ΑΓΓΛΙΚΑ ΣΤΑ ΓΡΑΦΩ ΣΤΗ ΓΛΩΣΣΑ ΠΟΥ ΓΡΑΦΑΝΕ ΣΤΗΝ ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ.ΤΗ ΜΑΧΗ ΤΗΣ ΧΑΙΡΩΝΕΙΑΣ ΤΗΝ ΕΧΩ ΑΚΟΥΣΕΙ. ΕΧΩ ΑΚΟΥΣΕΙ ΚΑΙ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΑΛΛΟΥΣ ΕΜΦΥΛΙΟΥΣ ΜΕΤΑΞΥ ΤΩΝ ΚΡΑΤΩΝ-ΠΟΛΕΩΝ ΟΠΩΣ ΜΕΤΑΞΥ ΑΘΗΝΑΣ-ΣΠΑΡΤΗΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΘΗΝΑΣ- ΘΗΒΑΣ.ΕΧΟΥΜΕ ΤΟΣΟΥΣ ΠΟΛΛΟΥΣ ΗΡΩΕΣ ΣΤΗΝ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΠΟΥ ΤΑ ΑΓΑΛΜΑΤΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΔΕΝ ΧΩΡΑΝΕ ΟΛΑ ΣΤΗΝ ΑΘΗΝΑ. ΠΕΡΙΜΕΝΩ ΝΑ ΜΟΥ ΔΕΙΞΕΙΣ ΜΙΑ ΜΟΝΟ ΜΙΑ ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ΕΠΙΓΡΑΦΗ ΑΠΟ ΤΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΠΟΥ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΣΤΗ ΓΛΩΣΣΑ ΠΟΥ ΜΙΛΑΤΕ ΣΗΜΕΡΑ ΣΤΗ FYROM.THE SPAINS WHO WENT TO AMERIKA AFTER 1490 DON’T SAY IS AZTECS, INKAS,MAYAS OR APACHE.ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ.ΕΣΕΙΣ ΕΙΣΤΕ ΣΛΑΒΟΙ.

Tassos says:

Yep but what do Slavs have to do with ancient Greek civil wars?

igor says:

did you ever ask your self why in greece there is no mounument of aleksandar exept one very small in Thessaloniki,try to put one in athens…did you ever heard for batlle of HERONEA??

ΤΕΟ says:

YES IGOR I HEARD FOR BATTLE OF HERONEA.I EVEN HEARD FOR BATTLES BETWEEN ATHENS AND SPARTA OR THIVES.THIS CALLED CIVIL WAR.IF WITH THE MOUNEMENT YOU SAY STATUE,GREECE HAVE SO MANY HEROES WHO DIED FOR OUR COUNTRY.THEY DO NO FIT ALL THE STATUES IN ATHENS. STRAVON FIRST CENTURY ΄΄ ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ΄΄.IF YOU ARE FROM FYROM YOU KNOW YOUR ANCIENT LANGUAGE.WITH THAT LANGUAGE SPEAK AND WROTE ALEXANDROS.IF NOT SHOW ME ONE SIGN IN ANCIENT WITH LANGUAGES YOU SPEAK TODAY”

ΤΕΟ says:

ΕΝΤΑΞΕΙ ΘΑ ΠΑΡΕΙΣ ΤΗΝ ΑΠΑΝΤΗΣΗ.ΣΤΗΝ ΑΡΧΑΙΑ ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΥΠΗΡΧΑΝ ΠΟΛΕΙΣ ΚΡΑΤΗ ΟΠΩΣ Η ΑΘΗΝΑ, Η ΣΠΑΡΤΗ,Η ΚΟΡΙΝΘΟΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΘΗΒΑ.ΥΠΗΡΧΕ ΚΑΙ ΕΝΑ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΙΟ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ.ΣΤΗΝ ΟΠΟΙΑ ΕΓΡΑΦΑΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ(ΟΛΑ ΤΑ ΑΡΧΑΙΟΛΟΓΙΚΑ ΕΥΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΑΥΤΟ ΛΕΝΕ),ΕΙΧΑΝ ΤΟΥΣ ΙΔΙΟΥΣ ΘΕΟΥΣ ΜΕ ΤΟΥΣ ΥΠΟΛΟΙΠΟΥΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ(ΔΕΝ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΠΑΡΑΞΕΝΟ ΠΟΥ ΟΙ ΚΑΤΟΙΚΙΑ ΤΩΝ ΘΕΩΝ ΗΤΑΝ ΣΤΟΝ ΟΛΥΜΠΟ?ΔΗΛΑΔΗ ΣΤΗ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ?).ΤΑ ΟΝΟΜΑΤΑ ΤΟΥΣ ΗΤΑΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ.ΤΑ ΟΝΟΜΑΤΑ ΤΩΝ ΠΟΛΕΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΑ.ΟΙ ΙΔΙΟΙ ΛΕΓΑΝΕ ΟΤΙ ΚΑΤΑΓΟΝΤΑΝ ΑΠΟ ΤΟΥΣ ΤΗΜΕΝΙΔΕΣ(ΠΕΛΟΠΟΝΗΣΟΣ).ΣΤΟΥΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΟΥΣ ΑΓΩΝΕΣ ΜΕΤΕΙΧΑΝ ΜΟΝΟ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ.ΟΙ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Α’ ΚΑΙ Ο ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΣ ΓΙΑΤΙ ΠΗΡΑΝ ΜΕΡΟΣ ΑΦΟΥ ΔΕΝ ΗΤΑΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ?Ο ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Α’ ΣΤΗ ΜΑΧΗ ΤΩΝ ΠΛΑΤΕΩΝ ΩΣ ΥΠΟΔΟΥΛΟΣ ΤΩΝ ΠΕΡΣΩΝ ΠΗΡΕ ΜΕΡΟΣ ΣΤΗ ΜΑΧΗ ΣΤΟ ΠΛΕΥΡΟ ΤΩΝ ΠΕΡΣΩΝ.ΤΟ ΒΡΑΔΥ ΠΡΙΝ ΤΗ ΜΑΧΗ ΑΠΟΚΑΛΥΨΕ ΤΑ ΣΧΕΔΙΑ ΤΩΝ ΠΕΡΣΩΝ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΣΤΡΑΤΗΓΟΥΣ ΤΩΝ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΛΕΓΟΝΤΑΣ ΠΩΣ ΚΑΙ ΑΥΤΟΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ ΗΤΑΝ.ΔΙΑΒΑΣΕ ΣΤΗΝ ΑΓΙΑ ΓΡΑΦΗ ΣΤΙΣ ΠΡΑΞΕΙΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ,Ο ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΟΣ ΠΑΥΛΟΣ ΟΤΑΝ ΜΙΛΗΣΕ ΣΤΗ ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ ΣΕ ΠΟΙΟΥΣ ΜΙΛΗΣΕ.ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ ΣΤΟ SITE ΤΗΣ ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑΣ ΣΑΣ.

john says:

this is for the uneducated and unhistorical people, one and for all. GREAT ALEXANDER OR ALEXANDROS was pure Greek, and Macedonia was and will bee part of Greece for ever , the truth is the late dictator his name TITO was looking to excess the port of THESSALONIKI for the obvious reasons, and there was only one way, to convince the yougoslavs and baptise them macedonians. THIS IS THE TRUTH AND THE ONLY TRUTH and no one can change or steal history

Nick Nikolas says:

Dear Lies and more Lies, I will tell you something that is not a lie. All educated people on this planet wish that they were Greeks. So do you.

I myself, have no objection to this. It is not blood, I believe, that makes someone a Greek. It is the language and only the language, nothing else. So, learn Greek and your children and much more your grand children will be proud of you. They will be proud that they are Greeks.

Remember, the language, nothing else. Some people have said that Macedonians were barbarians and they became Greeks when they learned the Greek language.

I hope some day you make the Greek language the official language of your beautyful country.

lantonov says:

If we list all innocent Bulgarians killed by the Greek bandits (andartes) at the end of 19 century and beginning of 20th century, for every name in your list there will be 1000 Bulgarians. Whole Bulgarian towns and villages were destroyed and their Bulgarian population killed by the Greek murderers. Names like Zagorichani, Kukush, Gorno Brodi became notorious to the international community because of the inhuman attrocities of the andartes against old people, women and children.

ellinas says:

it is funny that for thousands of years there has never been anything found that shows a lang. other then Greek in any documents, archeaological digs, in F.Y.R.O.M. or should i say VARDAR.Even the Old and New Testaments say the Macedonians are Greek , so which of you are ready to argue with the word of GOD.

Grecian_Lion says:

eismakedon and hmmm pedia i couldnt have said that any better.. i mean i know alot about this situation but u boys just smashed it up.. no wonder lies lies and more lies didnt reply .. cause u simply cannot answer back to that .. well done boys.. From a Hellenic Macedonian

hmmm says:

To lies and more lies,

Greece never ended with the Turkish occupation -- Greeks liberated themselves and raised their flag
before you you were told that you were Macedonians.

Greeks knew they were Greeks -- that’s why they spoke Greek at home and kept their religion and national identity.

St Cyril and Methodious were Greeks from Thesaloniki -- a real Macedonian name for a REAL Macedonian city
(yes it’s the same language the people of Greek Macedonia still speak)

The Ancient Macedonians have proven through the archaelogical finidings that they, not only spoke Greek,
but also spread the Greek culture and religion wherever they went.
It’s their fault the New Testament was first written in Greek.

Why was your country known an as something else til recently?

“The present FYROM was part of Serbia since 1912 with the name of VARDARSKA and with Skopje as its cap-
ital”

Why do you all speak a Slavic-Bulgarian dialect and call it Macedonian, when the true
Macedonians were always speaking Greek?

And why do you think FYROM (Yugoslavic Macedonia) who speak in a Bulgarian dialect is speaking real Macedonian????

Greece fought to free the Greeks of Macedonia from the Turks and the Bulgarians.

There were no Macedonian nationals counted in any Turkish sensors during the Ottoman Empire.
When did you guys become Macedonian nationals?
Only Greeks, Turks, Bulgarians, Serbs, Vlachs and Aromanians.

WHERE were you all????

But of course, back then you guys were calling yourselves Bulgarians -- ethnically.

So, why are you so opposed to admitting your slavic heritage but cling on to a title that was
Hellenic from ancient times(Macedonia)?
It’s clearly not merely a geographical indicator -- otherwise your people wouldn’t be obsessed about
claiming Alexander the Great and his Hellenic (Greek) empire -- see the national FYROM airport name change.

hmmm says:

To lies and more lies,

Greece never ended with the Turkish occupation -- Greeks liberated themselves and raised their flag
before you you were told that you were Macedonians.

Greeks knew they were Greeks -- that’s why they spoke Greek at home and kept their religion and national identity.

St Cyril and Methodious were Greeks from Thesaloniki -- a real Macedonian name for a REAL Macedonian city
(yes it’s the same language the people of Greek Macedonia still speak)

The Ancient Macedonians have proven through the archaelogical finidings that they, not only spoke Greek,
but also spread the Greek culture and religion wherever they went.
It’s their fault the New Testament was first written in Greek.

Why was your country known an as something else til recently?

“The present FYROM was part of Serbia since 1912 with the name of VARDARSKA and with Skopje as its cap-
ital”

Why do you all speak a Slavic-Bulgarian dialect and call it Macedonian, when the true
Macedonians were always speaking Greek?

And why do you think FYROM (Yugoslavic Macedonia) who speak in a Bulgarian dialect is speaking real Macedonian????

Greece fought to free the Greeks of Macedonia from the Turks and the Bulgarians.

There were no Macedonian nationals counted in any Turkish sensors during the Ottoman Empire.
When did you guys become Macedonian nationals?
Only Greeks, Turks, Bulgarians, Serbs, Vlachs and Aromanians.

WHERE were you all????

But of course, back then you guys were calling yourselves Bulgarians -- ethnically.

So, why are you so opposed to admitting your slavic heritage but cling on to a title that was
Hellenic from ancient times(Macedonia)?
It’s clearly not merely a geographical indicator -- otherwise your people wouldn’t be obsessed about
claiming Alexander the Gr

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eismakedon says:

Dear Lies & more lies, firs of all congratulations on the very descriptive name you chose to write under: VERY TELLING of your country’s modus operandi!
You live a Big Lie, and to perpetuate the BIG LIE you need to continuously come up with : Lies and more lies!
Again: Congratulations!

Your arguments show an unusual lack of intellectual depth.
A. Why FYROM and not just republic of Macedonia? Two resonas: first because you accepted to use this name in international fora. Over the years all your efforts are trying to negate that signature of yours, but it is not going to happen at the end. Your nose is getting bruised by the doors that close on your face, and no matter how many countries recognize you, you still have to get the one recognition you most desperately need: the people who have the port of thessaloniki and hold the keys to the doors of the EU. Secondly: while Greeks resented the fact that the name Macedonia was given to the Yugoslav province so called socialist rep of Mak., the reality was that it was simply a province of a country. Once you tried to bring that into the international arena as Rep of Mak. you found our reaction in your doorsteps, and you have to decide what is more important to you: to live your BIG LIE about being descendants of the ancient Greek-speaking true Macedonians, or accept your place in the proud league of modern nations as a Slavic and Albanian speaking country?
You ask: why Greece does not have more of Macedonia? What are you asking? Is this an invitation for Greeks to invaded you? We are neither Turks nor Kossovars…that part of the land belongs to you. Greeks did not win that from the Ottomans, only what we have now. Now if you want to be magnanimous, all you ahve to do is ask the Serbs come and take over your place, since it rightfully belongs to them for having won if through their arms and blood from The ottoman Turks. Then you can revert to your proper name? Vardarska banovina and no name issue ill be between us.

Lies &more lies says:

also if macedonia is greek then why does’nt the greek country hold more of macedonian territrry .Why because it can’t get more.The real truth & fact that is greece only holds a portion of macedonia It was split up to 4 countries.

mrhectic says:

greece in the balkan wars was fighting on two fronts and lost the territory due to battle disasters etc if you want greece to attack FYROM then tell the government. im dure they will be happy to

Lies &more lies says:

Fyrom (former yugoslav republic of macedonia)Why not just republic of macedonia??because you have a problem with that.
If macedonia is greek & why did they fight in the 1912 balkan wars.Also why did the turks hold on to macedonia for 500 years & call the macedonians.Someone is lying here & it’s the greek govt to it.s citizens.
Macedonians spoke greek not because they were greek but it was the language of the time eg like english is today.

mrhectic says:

ok why did all the other "countries" in the are speak other languages besides greek, if it was the language spoken at the time. america, australia, newzealand all speak english BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF ENGLAND hence why macedonians spoke greek because it was part of greece and still is today. look at the original borders of the hellenic state and you will seee they lay in the borders of greece today. you get told one thing but dont bother to read into it hence the problem with alot of people like you. there were no such people in those days as "greeks" they were the hellenic race, and what ddefined them as such was the language, culture, and who colonized the area. the borders were expanded by the romans to consume a larger area so that there could be one provincial govenor to a larger area and paying that person less money. hence the roman empire.

mrhectic says:

the Byzantine empire which was the start of greek orthodox was greek culture and language, when taken over by the ottoman empire they did a similar thing to the romans in making states. if you studdy the history of the borders, at one stage it was entirley in modern day bulgaria, and at another stage, thessaly in greece, even consuming most of the southern balkans. PLUS macedonia never fought in the balkan wars??? it was the region which different countries were trying to capture, hence the economic prospects of having more land for argricultural and industrial benefits. even trade. answer me this, do you know how to read and analyse? because archealogical sorces dont lie, ironic the name you go under