Falsifying History - Fabricating a Fake Identity: Skopjan pseudo-Makedonism on YAUNA - YAVAN - IONIANS

Miltiades Elia Bolaris
January 30, 2010

In the http://my. opera.com blog there is a section named “Macedonian Civilization/Македонска Цивилизација - Truth about Macedonians”. Within that section there is a chapter about the Ionian Greeks, called “Yavan-Ionians”, which was published on January 22nd, 2008 by a young Skopjan propagandist named Stojanche Chabir… /Стојанче Цавир…, who is writing under the pseudonym “Makedon”.

The internet page containing this entry is dripping with hideous ethnic hatred and venomous spite against the Greeks:

http://my. opera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/sub-saharan-turkish-tribes-which-today-call-their-self-greeks-have-not-ethymolog

It is about, we are informed in advance, the:

“sub-Saharan-Turkish tribes which today call their self Greeks” [sic].

The misinformative article is starting with a piece of historical information copied wholesale from the following website:


“In ca.521, the Persian king Darius I the Great ordered that a new alphabet, the Aryan script, was to be developed. This was used for a small corpus of inscriptions, known as the Achaemenid Royal Inscriptions. An overview of all inscriptions can be found here.”

Further down:

“Darius was buried at Naqš-i Rustam. The inscriptions on the upper and central registers of his tomb (DNa and DNb) are well-known, but there are several smaller texts on the same monument: two trilingual honorific inscriptions for the courtiers Gobryas and Aspathines, and inscriptions on the figures supporting Darius’ throne. Because inscription DNe mentions Macedonians, it must have been made after 512.”

Here is the transliterated Persian inscription and next to it its English translation:

“DNe, indications of people

1. iyam Pârsâ 1. This is the Persian.

2. iyam Mâda 2. This is the Mede.

3. iyam Uvja 3. This is the Elamite.

4. iyam Parthava 4. This is the Parthian.

5. iyam Haraiva 5. This is the Arian.

6. iyam Baxtriya 6. This is the Bactrian.

7. iyam Suguda 7. This is the Sogdian.

8. iyam Uârazmiya 8. This is the Chorasmian.

9. iyam Zrakâ 9. This is the Drangian.

10. iyam Harauvatiya 10. This is the Arachosian.

11. iyam Thataguiya 11. This is the Sattagydian.

12. iyam Gadâraya 12. This is the Gandaran.

13. iyam Hiduya 13. This is the man of Sind.

14. iyam Sakâ haumavargâ 14. This is the haoma-drinking Saca.

15. iyam Sakâ tigraxaudâ 15. This is the Saca with the pointed hat.

16. iyam Bâbiruš 16. This is the Babylonian.

17. iyam Athuriya 17. This is the Syrian.

18. iyam Arabâya 18. This is the Arab.

19. iyam Mudrâya 19. This is the Egyptian.

20. iyam Arminiya 20. This is the Armenian.

21. iyam Katpatuka 21. This is the Cappadocian.

22. imay Spardiya 22. This is the Lydian.

23. iyam Yaunâ 23. This is the Greek.

24. iyam Sakâ paradraiya 24. This is the Scythian from across the sea.

25. iyam Skudra 25. This is the Thracian.

26. iyam Yauna takabarâ 26. This is the Macedonian.

27. iyam Putâya 27. This is the Libyan.

28. iyam Kušâya 28. This is the Kushite.

29. iyam Maciya 29. This is the man of Maka.

30. iyam Karka 30. This is the Carian.”

So far so good, as the expression goes.

Then, out of the blue, a photo of an archaic homoerotic art appears, setting the scene for a borboros of sewer which only the sick mind of a psychopath could come up with


Little wonder, then that the Irano-Semitic peoples considered the Greeks to be effeminate.[sic]

In fact, the terms for Greek in the Irano-Semitic world

Yauna (Old Iranian), Yona (Pali), Javan (Greek), Yavana (Prakrit), besides meaning barbarian or savage, [sic] are derived from the root-word yoni, meaning vagina.”[sic]

from PIE base (Sanscrit)[sic] yavan=a rider horseman , invader , aggressor

yavan=javan-c (mod. Mac)=a rider horseman

yavan=”javan”(mod.Mac)=fucked [sic]

finally, we found etymology for word Yavan (greeks)

The psychopath-turned-fake-linguist who threw up such a scatological creation of pseudo-linguistic dunk is obviously jubilant to have invented yet one more way to hurl abuse and insult on Greeks. Fake science has always been the fig leaf of political charlatanism. The bigger and more outrageous the lie, the more abysmal the insult, the more believable becomes the propaganda message, to small-brained receptors anyway. This is an old recipe. Nazi Party supporters reveled in finding “rat” qualities in the “eternal Jew”, their “enemy other”. Their VMRO-DPMNE knock-offs in Skopje are following in their Nazi political predecessor steps. German pseudo-scientists at the Nazi “Research Institute for Racial Hygiene” were using racial “metrics” to prove that Jews, Gypsies and Eastern Slavs were untermenschen / subhumans. In a great historical irony, normal and otherwise decent people who fell under the spell of these theories ended up becoming the subhuman abomination of the twentieth century, whose atrocities these theories helped perpetrate. Here, deranged psychopath is using lies and twisted semi-truths trying to prove that Greeks are somehow inferior species, who, the reasoning follows, are not worthy of historic Macedonia.

Propaganda is the art of making many people accept a BIG LIE. To even partially succeed in this, the propagandist must create what would pass as a “scientific”- sounding construction. The BIG LIE, as any modern student of Joseph Goebbels knows needs to sound credible. The BIG LIE, of course, needs many smaller lies to support it.

Yoni/योनि is a Sanskrit philosophical and religious concept that means origin or source of life. Its origin is unrelated to the female reproductive organ and it has obviously nothing to do with the Ionian Greeks.

Yauna, Yona, Javan, Yavana, are not original Sanskrit words and they do not mean barbarian or savage. They mean Greek and as in most eastern languages, the word is derived from the Greek ethnonym Ionian. As for the “barbarian” or “savage” that the Skopjan propagandist is trying to insert next to “Greek”, speaking of an imaginary “PIE base (Sanscrit) yavan=a rider horseman, invader, aggressor”, this “Indo-European base” and the so called “horseman-invader-aggressor” meaning are only in his delusional imagination: they does not exist - he is simply and shamelessly lying.

On the contrary, this is how Bṛhat Saṃhitā, the 6th century Sanskrit encyclopedia speaks of the Yavanah, the Greeks, the descendants of Alexander the Great Macedonians of Bactria (modern Afghanistan):

Mleccha hi yavanah tesu samyak shastram idam sthitam Rsivat te api pujyante kim punar daivavid dvijah (Brhatsamhita 2.15)

The Greeks, though impure, must be honored since they were trained in sciences and therein, excelled others (Brhatsamhita 2.15)

The Mahābhārata/महाभारत), one of the two major Sanskrit ancient Indian epics speaks of the “all-knowing Yavanas/sarvajnaa Yavanah”…hardly an epithet for savages or barbarians:



(Mahabharata VIII.31.80)

The Yavanas, oh king, are all-knowing; the Suras are particularly so. The mlecchas are wedded to the creations of their own fancy.

(Mahabharata VIII.31.80)

Continuing down the path of Skopjan hallucination and we read:


from PIE base (Sanscrit)

yavana=Ionian , Greek (or a king of the Greeks), in later times also a Muhammadan or European , any foreigner or barbarian.

yavana-deza=sometimes applied to Ionia , Greece , Bactria , and more recently to Arabia

yavana=f. the wife of a Yavana , a Greek or Muhammadan woman Ka1lid [sic]

javanI=n. salt from saline soil L

yavana=”javana”(mod.Mac)=f. fucked”

Whatever we saw above applies here too. Yavana is not derived from any Sanskrit root, it is simply an Indian adaptation of the Greek ethnonym Ionian, a man of Ionia.

What the Skopjan propagandist did was simply copy what he saw in a Sanskrit dictionary, which describes various words, not all of them connected linguistically, and all of which have different meanings:

“yavana* =1 mfn. (1. {yu}) keeping away, averting (see {dveSo-ya4vana}). //2 n. (2. {yu}) mixing, mingling (esp. with water) Nyâyam. \3 mfn. quick, swift; m. a swift horse L. (prob. w.r. for {javana}). \ = mfn. quick, swift L. (prob. w.r. for {javAna}). \4 w.r. for {paijavana} Mn. vii, 41. \ =5 m. an Ionian, Greek (or a king of the Greeks g. {kambojA7di}; in later times also a Muhammadan or European, any foreigner or barbarian) Mn. MBh. &c.; N. of a caste Gaut. (accord. to L. `” the legitimate son of a Kshatriya and a Vais’yâ or `” an Ugra who is an elephant catcher “‘) of a country (= {yavana-deza}, sometimes applied to Ionia, Greece, Bactria, and more recently to Arabia) W.; wheat L.; a carrot L.; olibanum L.; pl. the Ionians, Greeks (esp. the Greek astrologers) MBh. VarBriS. &c.; N. of a dynasty Pur.; ({I}) f. the wife of a Yavana, a Greek or Muhammadan woman Kâlid. Sis’. (Yavana girls were formerly employed as attendants on kings, esp. to take charge of their bows and quivers); = {javanI}, a curtain L.; n. salt from saline soil L.


It is easy for anyone who has no knowledge of Sanskrit to realize that salt and swift horse and keeping away have little or no relation to the ethnonym Yavana describing a Greek. The fact that they sound or are even spelled the same does not mean that they are also derived from the same root.

“Lot” is an English word that describes a piece of land. Lot is a biblical Hebrew name of Semitic linguistic origin. LOT is the name of the national Polish airlines and a “lot” is a synonym of the word “many” in English: a lot of things.

The Greeks were not always one nation. Several ethne under different names made up what later on, in the Hellenistic era, after Alexander the Great helped unified them as the nation of the Hellenes.

The earliest recorded Greeks were the Danaoi/Δαναοί and the Achaeans/Αχαιοί. Later on history encounters also the Dorians/Δωριείς, the Graikoi/Γραικοί, the Hellenes/΄Ελληνες, the Aeolians/Αιολείς and the Ionians/Ίωνες.

The name Greeks is not how Greeks call themselves now. For self identification Greeks now (as in classical antiquity) use the name Hellenes/ Έλληνες. In most Western European languages the Greeks are named by one of the multiple derivatives of the ancient Greek ethnonym Γραικοί/Graecoi:

Grecs, Greci, Greeks, Griegos, Grci, etc. In the languages of the near East, on the other hand, Greeks are named from words derived from the ethnonym Iones/Ίωνες: Yunan, Yavan, Yavana, Yunani, Yauna, etc.

Ionia/Ἰωνία or Ἰωνίη was the Greek western part of Asia Minor, which is now part of the Aegean coast of Turkey, around the city of Smyrna/Σμύρνη/Izmir.

The meaning of the name Ionia/Ἰωνία is vague and unknown and neither linguists (Pokorny, Georgiev) nor Historians or Classical philologists that have tackled it have been able to reach an acceptable etymology. Several Hellenic and other Indo-European etymologies have been suggested but hitherto Ionia defies easy decipherment. I might as well be an ancient, pre-Hellenic toponym.

Again, the propagandist continues, misquoting a Sanskrit dictionary, supposedly that Yavana (Ionia) is derived from a “PIE base” (whatever that means):


from PIE base (Sanscrit)” [sic], [clearly a false statement: M.E.B.]

and continues with the copied entry:

“yavanadeza=m. the country of the Yavanas (-ja),mfn. growing or produced in the country of the YñYavanas Bhpr,mfn. born in the cñcountry of the YñYavanas , Pra7yas3c.”

This is in fact correct, Yavanadeza means Greece in Sanskrit:

What is interesting though is the fact that the only Greeks that the Indians ever came in contact with were the Greek army of Alexander the Great, and then the Greek kingdoms that sprang after Alexander´s empire was split into its components parts. One of these component parts was the Macedonian kingdom of Bactria, one of the later known Indo-Greek kingdoms of what is now Afghanistan, Pakistan and Northwest India. After the Greek kingdoms were overtaken by the Skyths, around 30BC, the Indians lost contact with the Greeks but still remembered them as their conquerors from the West. Centuries later, they mis-identified the attacking Arabs as Greeks, hence:

“of a country (= {yavana-deza}, sometimes applied to Ionia, Greece, Bactria, and more recently to Arabia)”, Sanskrit-English Dictionary, http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html

Having seen what the ancient Indians thought of the ethnicity of the Macedonians who conquered them, let us see what another ancient nation, the Hebrews thought of the Macedonians and their relation to the other Greeks:

“In the Table of Nations in Genesis 10.1-32, which lists the descendants of Noah and the nations they founded, the Greeks appear under the name “Yavan,” who is a son of Yaphet. Yavan is parallel with the Greek word, “Ionia,” the Greek region of Asia Minor; “Yaphet” is parallel with the Greek word, “Iapetus,” who is the mythological father of Prometheus in Greek legend. Two other Greek nations appear in the table: Rhodes (Rodanim) and Cyprus (Kittim and Elishah). The sons of Shem, brother to Yaphet, are the Semitic (named after Shem) nations, including the Hebrews. Imagine, if you will, the Hebrew vision of history. At some point, in the dim recesses of time, after the world had been destroyed by flood, the nations of the earth were all contained in the three sons of Noah. Their sons and grandsons all knew one another, spoke the same language, ate the same mails, worshipped the same god. How odd and unmeasurably strange it must have been, then, when after an infinite multitude of generations and millenia of separation, the descendants of Yavan moved among the descendants of Shem!

They came unexpectedly. After two centuries of serving as a vassal state to Persia, Judah suddenly found itself the vassal state of Macedonia, a Greek state. Alexander the Great had conquered Persia and had, in doing so, conquered most of the world. For most of the world belonged to Persia; in a blink of an eye, it now fell to the Greeks.

This great Greek empire would last no longer than Alexander’s brief life; after his death, altercations between his generals led to the division of his empire among three generals. One general, Antigonus and then later Ptolemy, inherited Egypt; another, Seleucus, inherited the Middle East and Mesopotamia. After two centuries of peace under the Persians, the Hebrew state found itself once more caught in the middle of power struggles between two great empires: the Seleucid state with its capital in Syria to the north and the Ptolemaic state, with its capital in Egypt to the south. Once more, Judah would be conquered first by one, and then by the other, as it shifted from being a Seleucid vassal state to a Ptolemaic vassal state. Between 319 and 302 BC, Jerusalem changed hands seven times.”


At some point, the partially educated propagandist is adding to the confusion by claiming that the word Ionian is related to horses:


Ionians=(Hi-yanians or yavanians = horse tribes)

(Hi-yanians = Ionian sea)

Hi = horse, singular.

Hiyan = pleural.

Pa = chief.

Ira = earth.

Yavan or hiyan = swift horse

I was wondering where on earth he came up with these unsubstantiated ramblings. It did not take much time for me to find out the source of these farcical claims. I found it:

THE ORIGIN OF GREECE (Family Letter from an Awakened Hindu)


Ionians. =(Hi-yanians or yavanians = horse tribes) (Hi-

yanians = Ionian sea) Hi = horse, singular. Hiyan

pleural. Pa = chief. Ira = earth. Yavan or hiyan = swift


The man who wrote these is a certain Dr. Sharad Wagle, a Medocal Doctor, (Psychiatrist, Psychosomaticist) from New Jersey, USA.

Even this good doctor though is accepting the fact that: “The identification of Yavana and Ionia is well known…”. His only problem is the fact that he raises a claim that Greeks came to Greece from India, and that Ionia got its name from Greek horse tribes originally from India. The fact that a Skopjan pseudo-Makedonist ultranationalist is adopting wholesale such an unsubstantiated theory furnished not by a historian but a psychiatrist is sheer lunacy. Here it is where Dr. Sharad Wagle´s real professional psychiatric services are urgently in need. A trip in Skopje would make Dr. Sharad Wagle a very busy man indeed. Starting from such pseudo-academic charlatans as Tendov and Boshevski who “translated” the Egyptian Demotic text of the Rosetta Stone using the Slavomakedonski dialect of FYROM, going to the pseudo-historian Aleksandar Donski who reads Slavomacedonian names in ancient Thrace, Illyria and Macedonia, then moving to the restauranteur Vasil Ilyov who claims to have translated Neolithic lithographs using the Cyrilic alphabet and the Bulgarian dialect spoken in FYROM, the list is endless. There are aspiring writers like the so-called Petrus Invictus, aka Pero Sardzoski, who has “proved” that Homer was simply a copycat of earlier Slavonic poems of Bronze age Macedonia.

Anyone with a lunatic theory pertaining to Greece or Macedonia that openly insults the Greeks or makes claims to the Slavic roots of ancient Macedonia is welcome to join the swelling ranks of club “Paranoia Skopjana – Pseudohistoria Absurda”. Martin Bernal, the Sinologist turned-“Classicist” (who speaks Chinese but neither Greek nor Latin), author of Black Athena (voted as the 8th “worse book of the 20th century”) saw the translation of his discredited book into Slavomacedonian (in the only one of the Slavic languages that found a willing editor to do so) and was awarded to become “Senator Makedonski” in Skopje, in the summer of 2009. Can you cook up some gene theory which “proves” that the Slovenomakedonci are autochthonous to the Balkans while the Greeks are invaders from sub-Saharan Africa, related to the Ethiopians the Faso tribesmen of West Africa and, of all people, the Japanese? (HLA genes in Macedonians and the sub-Saharan origin of the Greeks, by A. Arnaiz-Villena, K. Dimitroski, M. Blagoevska, V. Zdravkovska, etc). The parade of lunacy is enough to keep Dr. Sharad Wagle, the New Jersey Psychiatrist to contemplate opening a satellite office in Skopje and keep him for a while away from his Hindo-Hellenic theories.

It sounds funny, but it is not. The naked hypocrisy of the Skopje pseudo-Makedonists who shed crocodile tears about their imaginary “human right” to be called Macedonians is evident to anyone who sees their true ultranationalist face. The pseudo-Makedonist ideologues are not simply demanding a name-grab of the name Makedonia for their exclusive use. They also demand that the true cultural descendants of the ancient Macedonians, the Greeks of historic Macedonia (not FYROM) be stripped of their cultural and historic heritage.

They also go a step further, making a hideous assault on the Greek collective dignity too, identifying supposedly Ionia with some vulgar words in the locally spoken Bulgarian slang:


finally, we found etymology for word Yavan (greeks)

yavana=”javana”(mod.Mac)=f. fucked””

Having been dragged into this rat-filled gutter of ethnic intolerance and Nazi ideological thinking, the true nature of pseudo-Macedonism becomes apparent in all its fanatical bigotry and ugliness. They not only demand that the name Macedonia is usurped for their own exclusive use, despite and against history, geography and linguistics, but they also demand to be identified as the rightful descendants of the ancient Greek Macedonians and feverishly make irredentist claims on the Northern Greek province of Macedonia. In every breath they spit hatred, dripping fatal venom against anything Hellenic, anything of Greece or the Greeks. To anyone from outside, the repulsive and abysmal hatred of the Slavomacedonian nationalists against Greece and the Greeks, seems to be and truly is as culturally primitive as it is politically regressive, deleteriously racist and outright dangerous. In the same way that the Nazi adherents of the “sub-humanity” of the Jews the Gypsies and the Slavs ended up in their own trap becoming abhorrent sub-humans themselves, in the same way, the poison that officially and unofficially the Skopjan ethno-political nomenclatura is promoting and fermenting to be directed against Greeks and Greece is slowly eating into their own youth´s psyche, creating traumatic scars that will be with them for generations to come.

Let us now come back to where we started from, when the author informed us that we will learn about the:

“sub-Saharan-Turkish tribes which today call their self Greeks” [sic].

He idiotically led us to Naqš-i Rustam and the royal tomb of the Persian king Darius and inscription DNe which mentions the Macedonians.

On the transliterated Persian inscription DNe, “indications of people”, we read on the name of nationality #23

23. iyam Yaunâ - 23. This is the Greek, and, more specifically the Ionian Greeks who were under the yoke of the Persian Empire.

Yaunâ is unquestionably Greek.

Further down we read in Geographic succession Going north from Ionia and crossing into Europe:

24. iyam Sakâ paradraiya 24. This is the Scythian from across the sea.

25. iyam Skudra 25. This is the Thracian.

Finally, on number 26 we read:

26. iyam Yauna takabarâ 26. This is the Macedonian.

How is a Macedonian described by the Persians? Yauna takabarâ, meaning: Ionians/Greeks with Shield-shaped hats. Why did they call them Ionian/Greeks? Because the Persians were running an empire, they were not clowns, they wanted to describe everything and everyone properly, and they knew who is who and who speaks what. To the Persians, the Macedonians were not Thracians or anything else, they were speaking Greek and they were considered by their neighbors Greeks. There was one thing that they noticed different; superficial but enough to make a note of it: the wide-brimmed causia/kausia/καυσία hat of the Macedonians, protection against the heat of the sun (causis/καύσις is burning, the word “caustic´ in English is directly derived from causis: causticon). The photo of the causia- wearing Macedonian horseman in the beginning of this article is self explanatory.

Now, should anyone laugh or cry? The poor idiot tried to prove to us earlier that:

“the terms for Greek in the Irano-Semitic world Yauna (Old Iranian), Yona (Pali), Javan (Greek), Yavana (Prakrit), besides meaning barbarian or savage, [sic] are derived from the root-word yoni, meaning vagina.”[sic]”,

Supposedly it was derived from”

“PIE base (Sanscrit)[sic] yavan=a rider horseman, invader, aggressor”, etc.

He confidently assures us that in his Bulgarian idiom, the Slavomacedonian which he misnames as “Modern Macedonian” there is a word “javan” which means:

“yavan=javan-c (mod. Mac)=a rider horseman”

Now I wonder. If according to him “Yaunâ is unquestionably Greek” and “Yauna takabarâ” is “the Macedonian”, and as we know Macedonian meant the Causis-wearing Ionian, the Shield-shaped hat wearing Greek, then, having “finally, we found etymology for word Yavan (greeks)”, which means according to him:

yavan=”javan”(mod.Mac)=fucked [sic],

Naturally, someone would wonder: how would a Slavomacedonian propagandist translate literally from the Persian original the name “Yauna takabarâ” i.e. “the Macedonian” into his modern Slavo-“Makedonski” (mod.Mac) dialect? I also wonder now: what is the whole fuss, if the only difference from these despicable “barbarian” and “effeminate” “yavan=Javan” is just a (shield-shaped) hat?

It seems to me that the poisonous snake in its apparent eagerness to spread its deleterious venom ended up biting its own tail.

As the Greeks would say: Ανοιξε μόνος του τον τάφο του-He dug his own grave!…then jumped in it!

The example of the 1930´s German Nazis bend on dehumanizing their enemy other, the untermenschen / subhuman Jews, Gypsies and Eastern Slavs, ending up themselves dehumanized in the most grotesque way, should be a lesson for any and all extreme nationalist bigots polluting the Balkans with irrationality, ethnic hate and cultural intolerance.


By “Skopjan” we define not the inhabitants of the city of Skopje, nor the people of the former Yugoslav Republic of Makedonija, but the irredentist, ethnic-engineering and history-falsifying policies emanating from the ultra-nationalist regime of Skopje and the propagandists in their (usually paid) service.


The first thing that someone with even elementary knowledge of Greek would ask, after reading this article would be: “Why on earth did you spend so much time writing it? What is the point of answering every lunacy coming out of Skopje?”. This is a valid question, and many people asked me already the same question for similar articles. Truly, why should anyone spend ink and time defending the self-evident truth? Honestly, the more valid question, which they should be asking, should be not why I am writing these rebuttals, but WHY ARE THE SKOPJANS WRITING THEIR OUTLANDISH BOGUS THEORIES, to begin with! And why is Mr. George Soros spending his billions promoting the fake and fraudulent pseudo-makedonism:


There is a huge, well-oiled and paid organized propaganda industry supporting and bolstering pseudo-makedonism, the vast extent of which anyone can recognize in an quick instant by doing an internet search for anything “Macedonian”, anywhere in the internet, where someone would be looking up something or anything about Macedonia, Macedonian History, Macedonian Culture, Macedonian language, Alexander the Great, Philip II, etc, etc. Everywhere you look up the internet is polluted by a virtual tsunami of outrageously scatological in quality products of hideous, truth-twisting propaganda which passes itself as casually “impartial” information. The (admittedly idiotic) “teatar from tron” article at hand about the supposed “Macedonian Theater” is but a drop in the ocean, just one of thousands out there. I myself admit feeling like an idiot many times, trying to defend the self evident against vicious by the BIG LIE perpetrators, spending untold hours doing the research to answer what is clear and obvious, but still, I believe that truth needs to document itself against falsehood. I find the strength to continue exposing deception and fake arguments in the same way that a lawyer needs to expose defamation to defend someone whose name has been tarnished has been hideous slanders and libel. Greeks or Greek-speaking persons can smell such pseudo-linguistic and pseudo-historian rotten fish from a mile, because they know Greek, and most of them know Greek history too. For them it is easy to spot the eye-popping, gutter-quality fraudulent fallacies that are being mass-produced daily and in untold qualities in Skopje. The obvious reason, for me is that the pseudo-Makedonists are not here to convince the Greeks. They know better than that and anyway, very few people, comparatively, speak Greek in this world anyway. The BIG LIE propaganda from Skopje is directed towards the wide world audience, the unsuspecting millions who have little or no knowledge of the bloody details of the Macedonian Issue, and most have little or no knowledge of ancient, medieval or modern European history and Balkan history in particular. To them I ask that if they want to be on the side of history and impartiality, then they should at least look up and read the letter that the 200 Classical Scholars from around the world sent to the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama:



http://my. opera. com/ancientmacedonia/blog/sub-saharan-turkish-tribes-which-today-call-their-self-greeks-have-not-ethymolog

http://www.livius. org/aa-ac/achaemenians/DNc-e.html#DNe

http://www.srimadbhagavatam. org/downloads/SanskritDictionary.html

http://alt.nntp2http. com/history/2006/12/94299bd99900c41d0546772b0fa0d660.html

Source: http://macedonianissues.blogspot.com/2010/01/falsifying-history-fabricating-fake_29.html

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gdprasad says:

Yavanas and Yavana Kingdoms referred in Rajatarangini (Kalhana)

Reference to Yavana countries:
To the west of Kashmir there were five Yavana countries. Some of them are now part of Kashmir Empire. These Yavanas were not Greeks but they belonged to the Kshatriya race of India. As these disregarded and neglected the performance of vedic duties and rites they were called Mlechchas. In those Yavana regions lived four castes of people. As all these castes relinquished Vedic rites, their caste-names were merely nominal. Among the people of the Yona kingdoms Rajatarangini relates that there were castes called Yona Brahmins, Yona Kshatriyas, Yona Vaisyas and Yona Sudras.

Yona or Yavana Kingdoms:
1. Abhisara, 2. Uraga (Urasa), 3. SimhaPura (Singapura)
4, Divya Kataka (Deva Kataka or Kataka ), 5, Uttara
(Vide the Map of western India in post 'The Empire of Kashmir').
"Abhisara" consisted of two regions namely "‘Darva" and "Abhisara." The kings of these Yavana regions were Kshatriyas who became Mlechchas, were subordinate and paid tribute to Kashmir Kings. We find in Rajatarangini many instances, when these Yavana rulers revolted and became independent and the Kashmir monarchs subdued the rebels and brought them again under their sovereignty. Some of these five regions are part of Kashmir and others are on the western border. In the list of the Kashmir Kings, during the reign of 130th ruler, Kalasa Maha Raja… etc.

Please refer for more details: http://trueindianhistory-kvchelam.blogspot.com/20


Vikram says:

The ancient records in both Indian and Greek matches very closely.There have been frequent mentions in Mahabharata (3138 BC)about the "Yavanas" and "Kambhojas" where Kambhoja king Sudakshina was the ruler of Modern day Punjab,Pakistan,Afghanistan ,Iran and Iraq.The people who ruled in far west land beyond that were called as "Yavanas " by the ancient Indians.This far west land mentioned in Mahabharata as "Parma yoni" must be Europe with mainland Greece as center.During those times their were no countries and their was one common vedic language not only in India but also in Europe which is called "Sanskrit" in ancient India and "Hebrew" in Europe.These two languages have close similiarities like in greek "ionia" is "yoni" in sanskrit.Its also mentioned that these Yavana (Ionia)or Greek kings were allies of Kambhoja king and had also fought in Mahabharata war.This means ancient Greeks have been a part of Mahabharata Battle!!!!!!

Vikram says:

The ancient records in both Indian and Greek matches very closely.There have been frequent mentions in Mahabharata (3138 BC)about the “Yavanas” and “Kambhojas” where Kambhoja king Sudakshina was the ruler of Modern day Punjab,Pakistan,Afghanistan ,Iran and Iraq.The people who ruled in far west land beyond that were called as “Yavanas ” by the ancient Indians.This far west land mentioned in Mahabharata as “Parma yoni” must be Europe with mainland Greece as center.During those times their were no countries and their was one common vedic language not only in India but also in Europe which is called “Sanskrit” in ancient India and “Hebrew” in Europe.These two languages have close similiarities like in greek “ionia” is “yoni” in sanskrit.Its also mentioned that these Yavana (Ionia)or Greek kings were allies of Kambhoja king and had also fought in Mahabharata war.This means ancient Greeks have been a part of Mahabharata Battle!!!!!!